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00:01:34,380 San Diego I'm Greg Karl wood and despite 30 00:01:38,330 --> 00:01:36,540 a world of false flag secret space 31 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:38,340 programs fractional reserve banking 32 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:41,070 mind-control programs and more we cannot 33 00:01:45,139 --> 00:01:42,720 overlook the simple things in life 34 00:01:47,420 --> 00:01:45,149 that's where our power as individuals 35 00:01:49,850 --> 00:01:47,430 shines and there's still no shortage of 36 00:01:52,490 --> 00:01:49,860 misinformation deception and dare I say 37 00:01:55,130 --> 00:01:52,500 a tax to overcome when it comes to our 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:55,140 health and wellness we know the AMA was 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:56,850 set up as a Rockefeller medicine 40 00:02:00,590 --> 00:01:58,890 monopoly from the start and we've seen 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:00,600 the medical school in sector take the 42 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:02,250 money and drink the kool-aid longer than 43 00:02:06,109 --> 00:02:04,350 we've been alive we've seen scandal 44 00:02:08,059 --> 00:02:06,119 after scandal with the world's biggest 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:08,069 medical companies yet the media still 46 00:02:11,860 --> 00:02:09,810 encourages us to applaud their efforts 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:11,870 and donate to the cause we know that 48 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:13,890 petrochemical pill pushers and 49 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:15,810 sales reps have compromised our doctor's 50 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:18,000 integrity by getting them to promote any 51 00:02:22,580 --> 00:02:20,250 new drug they can if it means box seats 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:22,590 to next weekend's big game we've watched 53 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:24,810 the corporate food industry deceive us 54 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:27,300 over fat sugar and diet in general and 55 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:29,760 even when folks do try to play ball 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:31,770 we've seen no shortage of families reach 57 00:02:36,050 --> 00:02:33,810 financial ruin thanks to insurance 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:36,060 companies and unnecessary exploding 59 00:02:41,390 --> 00:02:39,090 costs well it's time to come down from 60 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:41,400 the soapbox and lead by example by 61 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:42,900 taking the reins of our own lives 62 00:02:47,690 --> 00:02:45,510 putting our alternative information to 63 00:02:49,070 --> 00:02:47,700 the test and making it painfully obvious 64 00:02:50,990 --> 00:02:49,080 to the rest of the world that our 65 00:02:53,540 --> 00:02:51,000 perspective yields the healthiest and 66 00:02:55,460 --> 00:02:53,550 most fulfilling life but to do that we 67 00:02:57,380 --> 00:02:55,470 need brave souls and bright minds that 68 00:02:59,180 --> 00:02:57,390 we can trust like today's guest dr. 69 00:03:01,310 --> 00:02:59,190 Stephen Hussey who knows the 70 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:01,320 repercussions of the system suggested 71 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:03,690 ways of life firsthand as his childhood 72 00:03:08,750 --> 00:03:06,209 was plagued by health issues including a 73 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:08,760 type one diabetes diagnosis when he was 74 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:10,050 only nine years old 75 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:12,510 Stephen went on to develop a passion for 76 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:14,190 health in college and he attained his 77 00:03:18,380 --> 00:03:16,260 doctorate and chiropractic medicine and 78 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:18,390 master's in human nutrition and 79 00:03:22,789 --> 00:03:20,340 functional medicine from the university 80 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:22,799 of western states over the years he has 81 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:24,570 learned the intricacies and details 82 00:03:29,090 --> 00:03:26,489 about the power of food to heal the body 83 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:29,100 and it all began when he used the proper 84 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:30,450 human diet as part of the healing 85 00:03:35,150 --> 00:03:32,790 process to rid himself of many chronic 86 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:35,160 health ailments today he practices 87 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:37,230 chiropractic and functional medicine and 88 00:03:41,690 --> 00:03:39,510 Roanoke Virginia and also coaches people 89 00:03:43,580 --> 00:03:41,700 back to health on his website resource 90 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:43,590 your health he's also the author of two 91 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:45,690 great books entitled the heart our most 92 00:03:50,539 --> 00:03:48,060 medically misunderstood organ and more 93 00:03:52,310 --> 00:03:50,549 recently the Health evolution so let's 94 00:03:54,350 --> 00:03:52,320 do the damn thing the do-gooding doctor 95 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:54,360 health evolution educator and true 96 00:03:57,740 --> 00:03:55,350 champion of the people 97 00:04:00,500 --> 00:03:57,750 dr. Hussey my man welcome to the higher 98 00:04:02,990 --> 00:04:00,510 side hey thanks for having me 99 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:03,000 it's great to be here you got it you got 100 00:04:06,770 --> 00:04:04,260 it I'm really looking forward to this 101 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:06,780 you sent me both of your books and I 102 00:04:11,060 --> 00:04:08,760 found a lot of great stuff that I think 103 00:04:13,789 --> 00:04:11,070 people are going to appreciate but I do 104 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:13,799 think some context for your life and 105 00:04:18,039 --> 00:04:15,690 your story would be a great way to start 106 00:04:20,090 --> 00:04:18,049 just because I've had a lot of 107 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:20,100 alternative or maybe we should just say 108 00:04:26,330 --> 00:04:23,849 natural health advocates on THC and it's 109 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:26,340 usually because of a personal need that 110 00:04:30,470 --> 00:04:27,750 they actually undertake 111 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:30,480 the huge task of getting diet right 112 00:04:35,750 --> 00:04:32,760 learning about suppress or little-known 113 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:35,760 elements of health and wellness and that 114 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:37,560 seems like it was true for you too it 115 00:04:43,130 --> 00:04:40,530 was kind of a situation of either change 116 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:43,140 your way of life or completely lose your 117 00:04:48,910 --> 00:04:46,470 quality of life for sure yeah so a very 118 00:04:51,230 --> 00:04:48,920 young age I was diagnosed with multiple 119 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:51,240 inflammatory chronic conditions things 120 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:53,280 like asthma we just had terrible 121 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:55,770 allergies had IBS I used to like 122 00:04:58,850 --> 00:04:57,690 breakout and huge hives all over my body 123 00:05:00,380 --> 00:04:58,860 and just because of an inflammatory 124 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:00,390 reaction and then ultimately ended up 125 00:05:05,090 --> 00:05:02,010 with type 1 diabetes which is an 126 00:05:07,010 --> 00:05:05,100 autoimmune condition and so I was kind 127 00:05:08,780 --> 00:05:07,020 of thrown headfirst into the Western 128 00:05:10,490 --> 00:05:08,790 medical world because that's all me and 129 00:05:14,420 --> 00:05:10,500 my parents knew what to do at the time 130 00:05:16,430 --> 00:05:14,430 and I guess that as I grew up especially 131 00:05:18,890 --> 00:05:16,440 in college and I found an interest in 132 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:18,900 health and found that my lifestyle made 133 00:05:23,060 --> 00:05:21,450 these things easier to manage but 134 00:05:25,310 --> 00:05:23,070 especially when I went off to get a 135 00:05:27,650 --> 00:05:25,320 medical degree I get you know functional 136 00:05:30,409 --> 00:05:27,660 medicine training I really started to 137 00:05:32,050 --> 00:05:30,419 look at what Western medicine was 138 00:05:33,770 --> 00:05:32,060 missing and why it wasn't giving me 139 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:33,780 solutions it was just kind of 140 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:35,100 suppressing the symptoms that I had 141 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:37,290 associated with these conditions and so 142 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:39,450 you know digging further and further and 143 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:40,650 further because even my medical 144 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:42,720 education like as a chiropractor and in 145 00:05:48,620 --> 00:05:45,180 functional medicine it was focused on 146 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:48,630 diagnosis we do all these tests blood 147 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:50,970 tests or assess symptoms and find a 148 00:05:56,030 --> 00:05:53,850 diagnosis and then that gets us to how 149 00:05:57,050 --> 00:05:56,040 we can treat now functional medicine was 150 00:06:00,500 --> 00:05:57,060 a bit different because we're looking 151 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:00,510 for the why but I am ever curious I 152 00:06:04,460 --> 00:06:02,790 guess and I just wanted to know the why 153 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:04,470 of the why we want to know why these 154 00:06:07,450 --> 00:06:05,850 people are sick but why are they getting 155 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:07,460 sick in the first place and so 156 00:06:12,350 --> 00:06:10,800 eventually led me to evolution which is 157 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:12,360 where I wrote this book but when I 158 00:06:16,370 --> 00:06:14,160 really started honing in on evolution 159 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:16,380 and applying that to humans and our 160 00:06:19,460 --> 00:06:17,910 health epidemic I really found the 161 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:19,470 answers I was looking forward I had been 162 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:22,110 looking for my entire life and they were 163 00:06:26,780 --> 00:06:24,750 ultimately things that led me to the 164 00:06:28,610 --> 00:06:26,790 lifestyle changes I made that got rid of 165 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:28,620 all those conditions aside from the type 166 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:30,000 1 diabetes which is kind of collateral 167 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:33,150 damage so yeah and it is nice to have a 168 00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:35,849 robust medical education and some 169 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:37,560 credentials that is important if you're 170 00:06:41,420 --> 00:06:39,240 going to coach people and work with 171 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:41,430 people but you really had to do a lot of 172 00:06:44,450 --> 00:06:42,150 this were 173 00:06:46,910 --> 00:06:44,460 independent of the system right because 174 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:46,920 as I understand it some people can go 175 00:06:51,380 --> 00:06:49,590 through the whole medical program and 176 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:51,390 get very little education on diet 177 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:53,570 nutrition they just kind of focus on 178 00:06:59,180 --> 00:06:57,270 disease mm-hmm but I guess talk to us a 179 00:07:02,570 --> 00:06:59,190 little bit about that most of what you 180 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:02,580 preach and advocate for is stuff you 181 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:04,770 learned on your own right yeah for sure 182 00:07:09,590 --> 00:07:07,410 if we just step back and look at how the 183 00:07:11,330 --> 00:07:09,600 whole medical system is set up I mean 184 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:11,340 it's a for-profit system and if you look 185 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:13,320 at the three aspects of it that profit 186 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:15,120 it's the practitioners insurance 187 00:07:17,780 --> 00:07:15,750 companies and the pharmaceutical 188 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:17,790 companies so the pharmaceutical 189 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:20,250 companies are funding the education of 190 00:07:23,450 --> 00:07:21,630 the practitioners most of the 191 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:23,460 practitioners as far as medical doctors 192 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:25,560 and so they're gonna fund an dedicate an 193 00:07:28,790 --> 00:07:27,540 education that steers those 194 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:28,800 practitioners toward using their 195 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:31,380 products their pharmaceuticals and then 196 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:32,880 the practitioners are looking for that 197 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:36,450 diagnosis because they can't get paid by 198 00:07:39,980 --> 00:07:37,680 insurance companies unless they have a 199 00:07:41,150 --> 00:07:39,990 diagnosis so someone could be you know 200 00:07:43,220 --> 00:07:41,160 sick but if they don't have enough 201 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:43,230 criterion we didn't diagnosis then the 202 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:44,280 doctor can't help them without getting 203 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:46,020 paid so that doesn't influence them to 204 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:48,120 help them very much and then the 205 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:50,430 insurance companies are only going to 206 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:51,900 pay for treatments that have been 207 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:55,050 approved or substantiated by research 208 00:08:00,200 --> 00:07:57,090 and since the pharmaceutical companies 209 00:08:01,670 --> 00:08:00,210 are also funding the research the only 210 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:01,680 research that really gets put out there 211 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:04,050 is that the pharmaceuticals are the best 212 00:08:07,460 --> 00:08:06,450 option so we have this you know system 213 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:07,470 where all this money's flowing around 214 00:08:11,780 --> 00:08:10,170 between those three pillars and then the 215 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:11,790 patients aren't getting better because 216 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:13,410 the focus is not on them it's about 217 00:08:16,820 --> 00:08:15,360 where the money is flowing and so with 218 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:16,830 all that stuff distracting us from 219 00:08:21,530 --> 00:08:19,410 finding out what's truly causing disease 220 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:21,540 we have a system that's not really 221 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:23,490 interested in what's truly causing 222 00:08:27,260 --> 00:08:25,140 disease so I had to figure out that kind 223 00:08:28,850 --> 00:08:27,270 of stuff on my own and so I go outside 224 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:28,860 the box find any resource don't rule 225 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:30,930 anything out just go and see if it makes 226 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:32,730 sense or see if I can apply it to my 227 00:08:35,750 --> 00:08:33,810 life and that's kind of what I've done 228 00:08:37,490 --> 00:08:35,760 even though I have this formal 229 00:08:39,170 --> 00:08:37,500 chiropractic education and this 230 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:39,180 functional medicine education I had to 231 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:41,850 look further fair enough and luckily we 232 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:44,610 have the golden age of information at 233 00:08:49,970 --> 00:08:47,040 our fingertips for people willing to 234 00:08:52,370 --> 00:08:49,980 walk the road and to elaborate on your 235 00:08:54,650 --> 00:08:52,380 story and to quote your book the health 236 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:54,660 evolution you write on a more personal 237 00:08:57,860 --> 00:08:55,529 note I was 238 00:08:59,679 --> 00:08:57,870 not a natural birth I was only partly 239 00:09:02,509 --> 00:08:59,689 breastfed and I was fully vaccinated 240 00:09:04,189 --> 00:09:02,519 those things along with the poor diet I 241 00:09:07,189 --> 00:09:04,199 was eating and the anxious child that I 242 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:07,199 was led me to the inflammatory childhood 243 00:09:12,350 --> 00:09:10,649 I experienced and that's pretty raw man 244 00:09:14,569 --> 00:09:12,360 sometimes this stuff isn't easy for 245 00:09:16,970 --> 00:09:14,579 people to admit about themselves and 246 00:09:19,249 --> 00:09:16,980 their own upbringing but it's also 247 00:09:21,199 --> 00:09:19,259 empowering when you learn that with 248 00:09:23,299 --> 00:09:21,209 better choices you can have a better 249 00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:23,309 life rather than being a victim of 250 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:25,620 circumstance and genetics and just 251 00:09:30,410 --> 00:09:28,290 saying well I'm sick that's my life I 252 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:30,420 mean it's really empowering to learn 253 00:09:35,030 --> 00:09:33,720 about say epigenetics right yeah for 254 00:09:36,799 --> 00:09:35,040 sure and so there's this huge field of 255 00:09:40,009 --> 00:09:36,809 epigenetics right now and basically 256 00:09:42,410 --> 00:09:40,019 epigenetics is the idea we've kind of 257 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:42,420 proven now that your genes are not set 258 00:09:44,780 --> 00:09:42,809 in stone 259 00:09:46,309 --> 00:09:44,790 you have the certainty that you have but 260 00:09:48,199 --> 00:09:46,319 you can influence the expression of 261 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:48,209 those genes based on the environment you 262 00:09:51,889 --> 00:09:49,920 put them in and that could be anything 263 00:09:53,449 --> 00:09:51,899 from the thoughts you're having to the 264 00:09:56,210 --> 00:09:53,459 toxins you're exposed to to the food 265 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:56,220 that you're eating anything that you 266 00:09:59,869 --> 00:09:57,689 come in contact with in your personal 267 00:10:01,850 --> 00:09:59,879 environment and so when we think about 268 00:10:03,290 --> 00:10:01,860 it in that aspect I think that 269 00:10:05,449 --> 00:10:03,300 functional medicine has done a really 270 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:05,459 good job of sharing this knowledge about 271 00:10:10,309 --> 00:10:08,519 epigenetics but what that means to me is 272 00:10:13,249 --> 00:10:10,319 is that our genetics are in the wrong 273 00:10:15,049 --> 00:10:13,259 environment and so when I started trying 274 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:15,059 to figure out what the ideal environment 275 00:10:21,470 --> 00:10:17,850 is for a human it led me to evolution 276 00:10:23,990 --> 00:10:21,480 and so I guess one of the basic theories 277 00:10:25,819 --> 00:10:24,000 of evolution is that when an environment 278 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:25,829 of a species changes too quickly and 279 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:27,720 that species doesn't have the necessary 280 00:10:33,889 --> 00:10:30,990 generations it needs to adapt to that 281 00:10:35,629 --> 00:10:33,899 change then its health will struggle and 282 00:10:37,579 --> 00:10:35,639 sometimes it will even die or the 283 00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:37,589 species will go extinct because change 284 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:39,959 too fast and so when you look at 285 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:41,370 epigenetics from that point of view and 286 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:43,290 you apply it to evolution humans are 287 00:10:48,740 --> 00:10:46,529 definitely in the wrong environment yes 288 00:10:51,319 --> 00:10:48,750 and I really think one of the 289 00:10:54,139 --> 00:10:51,329 overarching messages drilled into our 290 00:10:57,650 --> 00:10:54,149 heads by the big machine is this is how 291 00:11:00,110 --> 00:10:57,660 it is improvement is futile you know and 292 00:11:01,579 --> 00:11:00,120 that kind of crushes our hope for a 293 00:11:04,929 --> 00:11:01,589 better world and this applies to all 294 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:04,939 areas of life but epigenetics is really 295 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:07,170 dismantling that when it comes to our 296 00:11:11,570 --> 00:11:08,460 health and wellness 297 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:11,580 I think that is super important and so 298 00:11:17,270 --> 00:11:14,430 let me ask what are some of the details 299 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:17,280 about those major changes you've made on 300 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:18,720 a personal level that you think have 301 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:21,570 improved your quality of life most where 302 00:11:27,740 --> 00:11:23,010 did you see the biggest bang for the 303 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:27,750 buck well I think initially it was diet 304 00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:31,410 I started to realize that what I ate 305 00:11:36,410 --> 00:11:34,950 made it so much easier for me to control 306 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:36,420 blood Sugar's which is something I have 307 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:38,910 to deal with every day and I deal with 308 00:11:42,860 --> 00:11:41,610 it less and less now because I eat a 309 00:11:43,430 --> 00:11:42,870 diet that I really don't have to worry 310 00:11:46,610 --> 00:11:43,440 about it that much 311 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:46,620 and so diet was the first one and I 312 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:48,930 think that the biggest thing for me is 313 00:11:54,290 --> 00:11:51,570 that humans are way more efficient when 314 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:54,300 we burn fat we've been told that 315 00:11:59,660 --> 00:11:56,850 carbohydrates are necessary and they're 316 00:12:02,210 --> 00:11:59,670 the bulk of the American diet if we look 317 00:12:04,460 --> 00:12:02,220 at the big food companies out there 318 00:12:06,050 --> 00:12:04,470 they're the ones that produce all the 319 00:12:08,030 --> 00:12:06,060 wheat and the corn and the sugar and the 320 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:08,040 soy and things like that and so these 321 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:09,930 higher carbohydrate foods are driving 322 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:12,480 our metabolism which is making us burn 323 00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:14,370 carbohydrate which is causing all kinds 324 00:12:18,710 --> 00:12:17,160 of damage I like to say that when we 325 00:12:20,510 --> 00:12:18,720 burn carbohydrate we make more exhaust 326 00:12:23,270 --> 00:12:20,520 just like when a car burns fuel it makes 327 00:12:24,890 --> 00:12:23,280 exhaust and so that exhaust can actually 328 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:24,900 damage our bodies and make it less 329 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:26,370 efficient whereas when we're burning fat 330 00:12:31,610 --> 00:12:29,550 we make way less exhaust and we get more 331 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:31,620 energy from it and I'm metabolism just 332 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:33,210 works way better so that was the first 333 00:12:37,940 --> 00:12:35,490 thing for me going to a higher fat diet 334 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:37,950 which stabilized my blood sugars like 335 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:39,690 crazy I mean I barely had to use any 336 00:12:44,060 --> 00:12:42,390 insulin anymore I basically have a basal 337 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:44,070 rate that my body kind of gives itself 338 00:12:47,630 --> 00:12:45,450 where the pump gets itself throughout 339 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:47,640 the day and I don't give myself anymore 340 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:48,840 cuz I'm not really eating mini 341 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:50,580 carbohydrates at all so that was the 342 00:12:56,170 --> 00:12:52,530 first thing the second thing which was 343 00:12:59,410 --> 00:12:56,180 surprising to me was that foods have 344 00:13:03,230 --> 00:12:59,420 plant foods I should say have their own 345 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:03,240 defense mechanisms and so these become 346 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:05,670 popular known as like lectins or phytic 347 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:07,320 acid Zoar oxalates these are things that 348 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:09,600 foods have in them naturally that 349 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:11,850 disrupt our physiology they're trying to 350 00:13:15,620 --> 00:13:14,070 defend themselves against us and when I 351 00:13:17,930 --> 00:13:15,630 started eliminating foods that had a 352 00:13:19,850 --> 00:13:17,940 high amount of these the anti nutrients 353 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:19,860 as they're called my blood sugar 354 00:13:24,019 --> 00:13:22,110 stabilized even more 355 00:13:26,210 --> 00:13:24,029 this was when I really was able to just 356 00:13:26,449 --> 00:13:26,220 set a basal rate and then kind of forget 357 00:13:28,910 --> 00:13:26,459 it 358 00:13:29,989 --> 00:13:28,920 didn't have to bolus for every meal give 359 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:29,999 myself more enzyme looking that blood 360 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:31,410 sugars were just stable for a type 1 361 00:13:35,780 --> 00:13:33,809 diabetic that's phenomenal because I'm 362 00:13:38,239 --> 00:13:35,790 sitting here trying to think like a 363 00:13:40,309 --> 00:13:38,249 pancreas you know and give myself the 364 00:13:41,749 --> 00:13:40,319 right amounts of insulin and now I don't 365 00:13:43,729 --> 00:13:41,759 have to worry about it really as long as 366 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:43,739 I stick to the diet that I think humans 367 00:13:47,569 --> 00:13:45,569 really evolved to eat then I'm doing 368 00:13:50,809 --> 00:13:47,579 fine mmm well that's good to hear 369 00:13:52,549 --> 00:13:50,819 yeah and yes we all know our environment 370 00:13:54,769 --> 00:13:52,559 is full of toxins but you do bring up in 371 00:13:57,109 --> 00:13:54,779 the book these anti nutrients and I 372 00:14:00,470 --> 00:13:57,119 think people know far less about that as 373 00:14:02,539 --> 00:14:00,480 you mentioned lesions which are found in 374 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:02,549 grain and some vegetables but you also 375 00:14:07,059 --> 00:14:03,410 list 376 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:07,069 phytic acid which is found in legumes 377 00:14:13,369 --> 00:14:09,929 oxalates found in some greens tannins 378 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:13,379 found in many teas this is interesting I 379 00:14:17,179 --> 00:14:15,209 mean it makes sense that some plants do 380 00:14:19,309 --> 00:14:17,189 evolve to have these kind of natural 381 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:19,319 defense mechanisms and they aren't great 382 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:22,410 to consume but I think we're surprised 383 00:14:27,889 --> 00:14:23,670 by some of that because it's always 384 00:14:30,460 --> 00:14:27,899 about eat more greens and tea is very 385 00:14:32,569 --> 00:14:30,470 healthy you know is there certain 386 00:14:34,609 --> 00:14:32,579 popular tea out there that you would 387 00:14:36,079 --> 00:14:34,619 avoid or some of the main greens people 388 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:36,089 are probably eating where do you think 389 00:14:42,319 --> 00:14:39,420 people are probably eating the most anti 390 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:42,329 nutrients without knowing it I think 391 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:46,110 that grains in legumes are probably the 392 00:14:50,059 --> 00:14:47,610 two highest that people are eating a lot 393 00:14:52,609 --> 00:14:50,069 of mainly because they're added to a lot 394 00:14:54,829 --> 00:14:52,619 of processed foods grains and then 395 00:14:56,059 --> 00:14:54,839 things like soy can be very processed 396 00:14:57,109 --> 00:14:56,069 and added to a lot of processed food so 397 00:14:59,840 --> 00:14:57,119 if you're avoiding processed foods 398 00:15:02,929 --> 00:14:59,850 you're avoiding some food size and 399 00:15:05,569 --> 00:15:02,939 lectins or anti nutrients but we also 400 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:05,579 got to talk about the processing of some 401 00:15:10,249 --> 00:15:08,910 of these foods so in the past humans 402 00:15:12,409 --> 00:15:10,259 have made some of these foods more 403 00:15:14,409 --> 00:15:12,419 tolerable because of the way that 404 00:15:17,119 --> 00:15:14,419 processed them so if we're talking about 405 00:15:18,979 --> 00:15:17,129 grains using mica sourdough where it's 406 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:18,989 fermented actually reduces the amount of 407 00:15:22,579 --> 00:15:20,639 anti-nutrients doesn't mean they're not 408 00:15:25,489 --> 00:15:22,589 gone they're still there but there's way 409 00:15:27,439 --> 00:15:25,499 fewer of them or soaking beans before 410 00:15:28,939 --> 00:15:27,449 you eat them this has made them more 411 00:15:30,739 --> 00:15:28,949 tolerable I mean beans and notorious for 412 00:15:32,989 --> 00:15:30,749 making this gassy because they have 413 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:32,999 these indigestible proteins these anti 414 00:15:35,239 --> 00:15:33,600 nutrients 415 00:15:35,830 --> 00:15:35,249 what if we soak them and we get rid of 416 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:35,840 the soaking 417 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:38,180 that can decrease the nutrients things 418 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:39,680 like if you get like oxalates 419 00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:42,260 in some of the greens like spinach has 420 00:15:46,090 --> 00:15:43,880 pretty high oxalate scale has pretty 421 00:15:48,130 --> 00:15:46,100 high oxalates but if you cook them it 422 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:48,140 decreases that exposure to them I guess 423 00:15:52,530 --> 00:15:49,430 the amount of the oxalate would affect 424 00:15:55,810 --> 00:15:52,540 you and then things like lectins in 425 00:15:57,700 --> 00:15:55,820 nightshade vegetables so if we look at 426 00:15:59,890 --> 00:15:57,710 which is very interesting here the 427 00:16:01,270 --> 00:15:59,900 Italians eat a lot of tomatoes and 428 00:16:03,460 --> 00:16:01,280 that's a nightshade vegetable that's 429 00:16:06,070 --> 00:16:03,470 pretty high in lectins but if you look 430 00:16:06,580 --> 00:16:06,080 at the way that they make their pasta 431 00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:06,590 sauce 432 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:09,680 they blanch the tomato take the skin off 433 00:16:13,510 --> 00:16:12,170 and then they take the seeds out and the 434 00:16:15,940 --> 00:16:13,520 skin and the seeds where all the lectins 435 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,950 are the vast majority of them are and so 436 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:17,600 then they make their sauce with what's 437 00:16:22,630 --> 00:16:20,690 left so they're getting way less lectins 438 00:16:25,150 --> 00:16:22,640 i mean the way they eat most of their 439 00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:25,160 tomatoes and so it's part of the reason 440 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:27,470 why they seem to do better on this hi 441 00:16:32,110 --> 00:16:29,170 tomato diet that they have like in Italy 442 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:32,120 so it's very interesting that plants 443 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:34,370 would do this I think that there's if we 444 00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:35,870 look at it evolutionarily it makes sense 445 00:16:40,210 --> 00:16:38,390 though I mean if we pick a plant kill a 446 00:16:42,250 --> 00:16:40,220 plant or take its fruit with its seeds 447 00:16:45,070 --> 00:16:42,260 and we eat it and that sea doesn't 448 00:16:46,930 --> 00:16:45,080 survive our digestive tract then that 449 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:46,940 plant wouldn't survive it wouldn't be 450 00:16:50,860 --> 00:16:49,010 able to pass on its genes or grow 451 00:16:54,370 --> 00:16:50,870 another plant somewhere else so it would 452 00:16:57,190 --> 00:16:54,380 defend itself and so most animals who 453 00:16:59,290 --> 00:16:57,200 would get the effects that they get from 454 00:17:01,810 --> 00:16:59,300 these lectins these anti nutrients 455 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:01,820 wouldn't go eat that again because if 456 00:17:05,500 --> 00:17:03,890 they're getting weakened by them and 457 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:05,510 then something starts to chase them 458 00:17:09,730 --> 00:17:07,130 their chance of survival is decreased 459 00:17:11,170 --> 00:17:09,740 but we humans live in this easy world 460 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:11,180 that we created for ourselves and so we 461 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:13,610 eat these things without thinking about 462 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:15,530 it and we may have a headache or we may 463 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:17,090 have some inflammatory condition or 464 00:17:21,340 --> 00:17:19,310 something like that but it doesn't 465 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:21,350 affect our ability to survive because of 466 00:17:25,750 --> 00:17:22,970 this world we've created for ourselves 467 00:17:27,670 --> 00:17:25,760 and so we don't really think that it 468 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:27,680 could be causing our disease we've just 469 00:17:32,050 --> 00:17:29,570 been taught that plants are what humans 470 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:32,060 eat and that may might be the case all 471 00:17:39,130 --> 00:17:35,870 the time so yes the world is complex and 472 00:17:40,860 --> 00:17:39,140 we have really lost our education and we 473 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:40,870 really kind of got to get back into 474 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:43,550 understanding the complexity and the 475 00:17:49,780 --> 00:17:47,650 nuance rather than just saying eat 476 00:17:52,270 --> 00:17:49,790 natural things and avoid the dry 477 00:17:55,060 --> 00:17:52,280 I mean it is more complex than that but 478 00:17:57,820 --> 00:17:55,070 yeah I also really wanted to dive into 479 00:18:00,550 --> 00:17:57,830 the heart because the things you lay out 480 00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:00,560 in that book probably blew my mind the 481 00:18:04,990 --> 00:18:03,110 most let's start with heart disease it's 482 00:18:08,260 --> 00:18:05,000 considered the number one cause of death 483 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:08,270 so it should probably get some attention 484 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:10,510 what do you consider the biggest 485 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:13,370 misconceptions about heart disease I 486 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:16,040 think there's two one 487 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:18,650 is that the heart is a pump and the 488 00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:20,930 heart is actually not a pump it's 489 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:22,430 something different and we're going to 490 00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:25,510 that but the other one is that 491 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:28,100 cholesterol and dietary fat and 492 00:18:32,140 --> 00:18:30,620 atherosclerosis in arteries causes heart 493 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:32,150 attacks I mean atherosclerosis and an 494 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:33,830 order it's not a good thing to have but 495 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:35,690 it doesn't necessarily cause a heart 496 00:18:40,750 --> 00:18:38,390 attack so let's get into this first of 497 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:40,760 all the heart is not a pump so there's 498 00:18:44,980 --> 00:18:43,370 lots of studies that show that looking 499 00:18:47,070 --> 00:18:44,990 at the heart of the pressure propulsion 500 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,080 pump meaning something that would take 501 00:18:51,580 --> 00:18:50,000 static water from somewhere suck it in 502 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:51,590 and then forcefully pump it out 503 00:18:55,690 --> 00:18:53,330 somewhere else which is what we're 504 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:55,700 taught the heart does just doesn't add 505 00:18:59,260 --> 00:18:57,650 up but the physics of our cardiovascular 506 00:19:00,910 --> 00:18:59,270 system if the heart was that type of 507 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:00,920 pump doesn't make sense 508 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:02,690 there's many experiments that have been 509 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:05,090 done that show that the heart pumping 510 00:19:09,850 --> 00:19:07,010 that way or being the main force of 511 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:09,860 blood flow the physics of the system 512 00:19:13,060 --> 00:19:11,810 doesn't work and actually like the 513 00:19:14,430 --> 00:19:13,070 system would collapse because the 514 00:19:17,530 --> 00:19:14,440 pressure and the system would collapse 515 00:19:18,850 --> 00:19:17,540 then we have to ask ourselves well how 516 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:18,860 is the blood flowing though if the 517 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:21,200 heart's not pumping it so I think an 518 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:23,050 important question to ask with that is 519 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:26,210 how does water get from the ground to 520 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:28,610 the top of a 300 foot tall redwood tree 521 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:31,250 there's no pump there right but it 522 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:33,290 happens and then people would say oh 523 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:35,060 well you can like siphon barometric 524 00:19:39,370 --> 00:19:36,560 pressure but the maximum you can do that 525 00:19:41,620 --> 00:19:39,380 is like 32 feet and so there's these 300 526 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:41,630 foot tall trees that have water in the 527 00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:43,130 leaves so how does that happen 528 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:46,280 well this goes to looking at some of the 529 00:19:50,740 --> 00:19:48,530 work done by Gerald [\h__\h] at the 530 00:19:51,820 --> 00:19:50,750 University of Washington and before him 531 00:19:53,950 --> 00:19:51,830 Gilbert Ling 532 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:53,960 they found that water has some unique 533 00:19:59,800 --> 00:19:57,170 properties and so when water has 534 00:20:02,050 --> 00:19:59,810 sufficient charge which water can hold 535 00:20:03,740 --> 00:20:02,060 charge it can harvest energy from the 536 00:20:06,169 --> 00:20:03,750 environment and hold 537 00:20:08,060 --> 00:20:06,179 when it has enough energy and it's next 538 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:08,070 to a hydrophilic surface a water loving 539 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:11,010 surface then it will create this layer 540 00:20:17,870 --> 00:20:14,640 of exclusion zone water or fourth phase 541 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:17,880 water and when that forms so let's say 542 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:19,590 we're talking about an artery which is a 543 00:20:25,940 --> 00:20:22,289 hydrophilic surface and the blood is 544 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:25,950 almost 50% water so if the water and our 545 00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:27,570 blood is charged enough if it's holding 546 00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,980 the energy enough it will form this 547 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:30,960 layer around the artery and that does 548 00:20:35,950 --> 00:20:33,510 two things that layer protects the 549 00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:35,960 artery provided that we don't have 550 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:38,880 toxins and oxidative damage that will 551 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:41,520 destroy that layer but it also creates 552 00:20:46,909 --> 00:20:43,740 an energy gradient that creates flow and 553 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:46,919 so dr. [\h__\h] has done these really 554 00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:48,000 interesting experiments where they put a 555 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:50,309 hydrophilic tube in water that has 556 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:52,890 enough charge and the water just starts 557 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:54,030 flowing through the tube in one 558 00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:56,970 direction without any pump or any force 559 00:21:01,120 --> 00:20:59,460 on it and he found that when he supplied 560 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:01,130 energy to this system this water 561 00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:03,450 indefinitely the flow would continue 562 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:06,030 indefinitely and so I think that's more 563 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:08,010 like what we're seeing and I think that 564 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:11,850 if we look at the heart its main purpose 565 00:21:16,580 --> 00:21:14,130 is not to forcefully pump the blood 566 00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:16,590 because I mean it's a good analogy here 567 00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:18,600 so if I was to put a pressure propulsion 568 00:21:23,330 --> 00:21:21,929 pump in the middle of a river a the 569 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:23,340 river wouldn't need it to be there 570 00:21:26,450 --> 00:21:24,990 because the rivers already flowing which 571 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,460 the blood is already flowing because of 572 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:28,320 this dynamic we talked about with the 573 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:30,510 fourth phase water in the artery but it 574 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:32,730 also might get in the way of flow if we 575 00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:34,110 put it in the middle of this flow and 576 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,400 it's trying to suck this water that's 577 00:21:38,419 --> 00:21:37,200 already coming to it and pump it out the 578 00:21:40,669 --> 00:21:38,429 other side it probably slowed it down 579 00:21:42,710 --> 00:21:40,679 and so that's one of the things the 580 00:21:46,909 --> 00:21:42,720 heart is trying to do is actually slow 581 00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:46,919 the blood because if it doesn't let's 582 00:21:50,899 --> 00:21:49,470 say we go out and go for a run we 583 00:21:52,909 --> 00:21:50,909 increase the metabolic demand or the 584 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,919 need for blood and our tissues and our 585 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:54,240 muscles because we're trying to propel 586 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:56,760 ourselves somewhere well if the heart 587 00:22:00,320 --> 00:21:57,570 wasn't there 588 00:22:02,180 --> 00:22:00,330 all the blood would flow over to the 589 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:02,190 arterial side trying to supply the 590 00:22:05,539 --> 00:22:04,169 tissues but since the heart is there 591 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:05,549 when the Bloods coming back from the 592 00:22:09,529 --> 00:22:08,190 veins it slows the flow so that we don't 593 00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:09,539 lose pressure in the system because if 594 00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:10,860 it all flowed toward the arterial side 595 00:22:15,169 --> 00:22:12,360 the vainest I would collapse and that 596 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:15,179 would not be good so one of the roles of 597 00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:17,370 the heart is to actually slow 598 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:18,750 the blood so that we can maintain that 599 00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,850 pressure in a situation where we're 600 00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:23,280 getting high metabolic demand the other 601 00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:26,280 rule is that dr. [\h__\h] has found that 602 00:22:32,270 --> 00:22:28,260 there's different ways to energize water 603 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:32,280 and one of them is like radiant light or 604 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:33,690 infrared light which we can get from the 605 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:36,240 Sun another is contact with the 606 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:37,440 electromagnetic field that is the earth 607 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:39,570 that will energize the blood but another 608 00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,350 is vortexing which means swirling so if 609 00:22:46,790 --> 00:22:45,600 we look at everybody's seem like when 610 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:46,800 water is flowing through a river and it 611 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:48,150 goes past a rock on the other side it 612 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:50,460 kind of swirls that will be vortexing 613 00:22:54,860 --> 00:22:52,710 and if we look at what the heart is 614 00:22:57,860 --> 00:22:54,870 doing as blood is flowing through it on 615 00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:57,870 its own then it's actually vortexing it 616 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:00,000 so when the blood comes back from the 617 00:23:03,770 --> 00:23:02,070 veins to the heart against vortex when 618 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:03,780 it flows through the valves it vortexes 619 00:23:07,340 --> 00:23:06,090 when the heart contracts it actually 620 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:07,350 like the muscles in the heart are 621 00:23:11,450 --> 00:23:09,809 oriented in a spiral condition or way so 622 00:23:13,580 --> 00:23:11,460 that when it contracts it spins the 623 00:23:15,650 --> 00:23:13,590 blood when it pushes it back out and 624 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:15,660 that's about all it does like it's got 625 00:23:20,210 --> 00:23:18,809 about 15% efficiency when we think of 626 00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:20,220 the heart as pressure propulsion pump 627 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:22,230 because all it really does is takes the 628 00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:23,730 blood from the ventricle kind of puts it 629 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:25,380 back out into the venous system and then 630 00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:27,630 the arteries take over because of that 631 00:23:33,260 --> 00:23:29,580 fourth phase of water so I think that 632 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:33,270 the heart is a vortex and it's also 633 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:36,240 there to slow the flow of blood so that 634 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:37,770 we don't get collapse of pressure in the 635 00:23:42,350 --> 00:23:39,510 system which is very interesting it 636 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,360 plays a very different role than I was 637 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:44,640 taught in medical school but it makes 638 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:46,710 way more sense when we look at it that 639 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:49,650 way so that's the first big concept 640 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:51,570 about the heart that debunks things the 641 00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:54,480 second is that heart disease in general 642 00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:57,900 is not caused by cholesterol or high fat 643 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:01,020 so I mentioned the first aspect of heart 644 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:02,370 disease is the atherosclerosis the 645 00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:05,370 hardening of arteries and so that can 646 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:08,760 happen when that layer of fourth phase 647 00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:10,860 water that's surrounding the inner layer 648 00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:13,140 of an artery gets damaged and that can 649 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:14,580 get damaged because we're exposed to a 650 00:24:17,930 --> 00:24:16,500 lot of toxins or because we're burning 651 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:17,940 carbohydrates which is increasing the 652 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:19,650 amount of free radicals that we're 653 00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:21,420 getting in our system and various other 654 00:24:26,330 --> 00:24:24,630 things can actually break down lining 655 00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:26,340 that protective layer and when it gets 656 00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:28,020 to the lining of the artery it can 657 00:24:31,310 --> 00:24:29,640 actually damage the lining of the artery 658 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:31,320 and then our body has to 659 00:24:35,180 --> 00:24:32,910 do something about it because we can't 660 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:35,190 let an artery rupture so what it does is 661 00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:37,410 it takes cholesterol and some minerals 662 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:39,300 like calcium things like that and it 663 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:41,340 kind of uses it as spackle to plug up 664 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:44,010 that area so that it doesn't rupture so 665 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:46,290 cholesterol is not what's causing the 666 00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:47,910 most grossest are too much cholesterol 667 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:49,500 in the blood is not causing 668 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:51,810 atherosclerosis it can get elevated in 669 00:24:54,530 --> 00:24:52,890 the blood because there's inflammation 670 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:54,540 that's leading to the damage of this 671 00:24:57,890 --> 00:24:55,890 artery so that we need more cholesterol 672 00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:57,900 there to be spackle so that's the first 673 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:00,480 aspect so atherosclerosis is caused by 674 00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:03,720 free radical damage toxins and free 675 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:06,030 radicals being produced from eating too 676 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:07,320 many carbohydrates and things like that 677 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:09,960 the second aspect is that heart attacks 678 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,420 are not caused or I guess the vast 679 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:14,400 majority of heart attacks are not caused 680 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:17,250 by acute blockages so we think of this 681 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:19,650 like this de gnosis of an artery or 682 00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:23,010 closing off of an artery that's because 683 00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:25,020 of the atherosclerosis that leads to a 684 00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:27,120 further and further blockage of an 685 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:29,640 artery around the heart or we think of 686 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,490 maybe an artery does rupture and we get 687 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:34,080 a clot formation and that clot flows 688 00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,570 down to an artery and so there was some 689 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:38,640 very interesting work done by a guy 690 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:43,050 named Baldy it was Italian and he found 691 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:45,570 that the vast majority of heart attacks 692 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:49,170 had no clot well he found that 50% of 693 00:25:53,270 --> 00:25:50,760 the heart attacks and the autopsies he 694 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:53,280 did there was no clot there and the ones 695 00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,770 that there was a clot he found that the 696 00:25:59,300 --> 00:25:57,600 clot was a result of the heart attack 697 00:26:01,640 --> 00:25:59,310 not the cause of the heart attack and 698 00:26:03,620 --> 00:26:01,650 then there was about I think like three 699 00:26:06,020 --> 00:26:03,630 and a half percent where they were 700 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:06,030 caused by an acute blockage but that 701 00:26:10,010 --> 00:26:07,950 does not account for you know the 702 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:10,020 hundreds of thousands of heart attacks 703 00:26:15,170 --> 00:26:12,450 we see every year and so if we look at 704 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:15,180 this further we'll find that what 705 00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:16,770 happens in the heart attack is actually 706 00:26:22,460 --> 00:26:19,950 a response to it's actually your body 707 00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:22,470 going back to a kind of a more ancient 708 00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:25,560 response from your nervous system so our 709 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:29,430 nervous system is designed to perceive 710 00:26:32,270 --> 00:26:30,750 our environment and let us know if we're 711 00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:32,280 in a safe or threatening environment and 712 00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,270 so before the bigger reptiles came 713 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:39,120 around there was this one nervous system 714 00:26:42,770 --> 00:26:41,370 pathway that did that and it was the 715 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:42,780 vagus nerve but it was called the dorsal 716 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:44,880 motor nucleus of the vagus nerve 717 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:47,310 and so when that guy over stimulated it 718 00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:50,310 would shut metabolism down maybe even 719 00:26:55,550 --> 00:26:53,340 slow the heart rate and this was when it 720 00:26:57,620 --> 00:26:55,560 was advantageous for animals to fake a 721 00:26:59,180 --> 00:26:57,630 death and so that was the mechanism at 722 00:27:01,400 --> 00:26:59,190 play there but then as the organisms got 723 00:27:03,410 --> 00:27:01,410 more complex and especially mammals who 724 00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:03,420 are much more metabolically demanding 725 00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:05,580 meaning we can't shut down organs like 726 00:27:09,770 --> 00:27:07,800 that without major consequences we can't 727 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:09,780 fake death without you know actually 728 00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:12,450 causing damage and so we evolved this 729 00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:14,940 second pathway of the vagus nerve called 730 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:18,060 the nucleus ambiguus pathway and so that 731 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:20,250 is the vagus nerve the one that 732 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:22,170 everybody talks about stimulating the 733 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:23,790 parasympathetic aspect of the vagus 734 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:25,710 nerve you no rest and digest 735 00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:27,360 everybody talks about stimulating that 736 00:27:33,290 --> 00:27:30,900 and so unfortunately in today's society 737 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:33,300 we're in this constant state of stress 738 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:35,490 we tend to take non-life-threatening 739 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:37,710 things as life-threatening because we 740 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:39,450 think too much we're the only species 741 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:41,010 that can think our way into a stress 742 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:44,370 response we're very dependent on money 743 00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:46,590 to get us all the resources we need to 744 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:48,150 live which can be very stressful to be 745 00:27:51,380 --> 00:27:49,350 depend on this one thing if you don't 746 00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:51,390 have this one thing then your health and 747 00:27:57,140 --> 00:27:53,760 your life is threatened and so all these 748 00:28:00,410 --> 00:27:57,150 things can combine to over stimulate and 749 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:00,420 shut down that newly evolved pathway 750 00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:02,820 which is that nucleus ambiguus 751 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:04,830 parasympathetic pathway and when that 752 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:05,820 gets shut down 753 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,340 too much and we get a surgery of 754 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:09,840 gentleman from a stressful response then 755 00:28:14,510 --> 00:28:13,260 that old pathway takes over that dorsal 756 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:14,520 motor nucleus and that's the one that 757 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:16,530 would cause organ systems to shut down 758 00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:20,430 so we see that in a heart cell how the 759 00:28:25,910 --> 00:28:23,430 heart cells communicate you know your 760 00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:25,920 nervous system activity - like an 761 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:28,590 individual cell in your heart is that it 762 00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:30,450 does that through what's called nitric 763 00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:34,020 oxide and if your body doesn't have 764 00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,180 enough nitric oxide which we would get 765 00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:39,120 from eating a healthy diet and having 766 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:41,400 healthy endothelial so you know the 767 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:43,050 lining of your blood vessel is where 768 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:44,700 that nitric oxide comes from if we don't 769 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:46,710 have healthy endothelial we don't have 770 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:48,390 the nitric oxide so that signal can't 771 00:28:54,530 --> 00:28:51,210 get into the heart cell and so then 772 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:54,540 we'll get this surge in adrenaline or 773 00:28:58,340 --> 00:28:57,450 stress response without the ability of 774 00:29:00,140 --> 00:28:58,350 that Paris 775 00:29:02,210 --> 00:29:00,150 pathetic stress response to get into the 776 00:29:04,490 --> 00:29:02,220 heart cell and that can cause problems 777 00:29:06,770 --> 00:29:04,500 that forces the heart cells to burn 778 00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:06,780 carbohydrate rather than fat because it 779 00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:08,220 thinks it's in a stressful situation and 780 00:29:12,140 --> 00:29:09,750 needs to get away and we can burn 781 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:12,150 carbohydrates faster and unfortunately 782 00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,289 when a heart cell starts to burn 783 00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:15,120 carbohydrate we get a buildup of lactic 784 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:17,070 acid just like happens in your leg 785 00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:18,960 muscles you know when you go for a run 786 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:20,580 you get a buildup of lactic acid and it 787 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,710 starts to hurt but when it happens in 788 00:29:28,669 --> 00:29:24,480 the heart cell it can actually cause 789 00:29:31,159 --> 00:29:28,679 swelling or edema as we call it and that 790 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:31,169 swelling can actually change the 791 00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:33,330 pressure in the whole system of the 792 00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:36,299 heart and so if we have this swelling 793 00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:38,400 that's now forcing pressure out of the 794 00:29:42,049 --> 00:29:39,960 cells in the heart rather than the blood 795 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:42,059 putting pressure into the cells of the 796 00:29:46,580 --> 00:29:43,830 heart now the blood can't get in and 797 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:46,590 then we lose blood supply to an area of 798 00:29:52,190 --> 00:29:49,110 the heart we get necrosis because now 799 00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:52,200 there's no nutrition to that specific 800 00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:53,760 area of the heart where this happened 801 00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:55,980 and we get tissue death which is what a 802 00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:57,539 heart attack is we get an area of tissue 803 00:30:01,880 --> 00:29:59,370 death if that tissue death is a 804 00:30:03,860 --> 00:30:01,890 substantial enough amount someone can 805 00:30:06,140 --> 00:30:03,870 die from a heart attack but it's all 806 00:30:08,899 --> 00:30:06,150 triggered by our stress response system 807 00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:08,909 and it has almost nothing to do with 808 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:11,220 clots and that's what bürol d found he 809 00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:13,770 found that anywhere there was a severe 810 00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,539 stenosis like a narrowing of an artery 811 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:17,520 in the coronary artery like in the heart 812 00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:19,650 that the body had created a bypass 813 00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:21,780 around it already like it had created 814 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:24,840 new arteries around it and so there was 815 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:27,419 all these examples in his book about men 816 00:30:33,049 --> 00:30:30,720 who had 90% or 95% stenosis of coronary 817 00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:33,059 arteries but were running marathons it's 818 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:34,440 like there's no way they're running 819 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:36,690 marathons on 10% to one area of their 820 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:38,610 heart and so it was because of these 821 00:30:42,789 --> 00:30:40,260 cloud or arteries that were going around 822 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:42,799 it that combined with the fact that a 823 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,570 stressful response like this and then 824 00:30:50,899 --> 00:30:48,000 balance in our nervous system can cause 825 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:50,909 these events to happen explain that the 826 00:30:54,740 --> 00:30:52,530 vast majority of heart attacks and 827 00:30:56,779 --> 00:30:54,750 really a small percentage of them are 828 00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:56,789 actually caused by any type of acute 829 00:31:01,700 --> 00:30:58,890 blockage so that was a long rant but 830 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:01,710 danko no I loved it that was a hell of a 831 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,770 breakdown and just to revisit that first 832 00:31:09,710 --> 00:31:07,440 part I've had a few other guests bring 833 00:31:12,140 --> 00:31:09,720 up doctor Pollux fourth phase of water 834 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:12,150 work and I was really surprised to see 835 00:31:15,710 --> 00:31:14,130 that chapter in your heart book funny 836 00:31:17,810 --> 00:31:15,720 enough if everything goes according to 837 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:17,820 plan Gerald [\h__\h] is my next interview 838 00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:18,480 too 839 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:21,630 which is you know why I think this is so 840 00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:24,480 interesting because this context helps 841 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:26,220 to understand blood flow in the heart 842 00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:28,530 and that's very surprising to me you 843 00:31:33,050 --> 00:31:30,060 also later in the book describe the 844 00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:33,060 heart as a vortex in hydraulic ram and 845 00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:35,640 note that even Rudolf Steiner used to 846 00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:37,560 say that the heart functions more like a 847 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:40,260 damming up organ that it interrupts the 848 00:31:46,570 --> 00:31:43,830 flow of blood and then also this vortex 849 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,580 scene thing it seems like a pretty 850 00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:48,960 obscure discovery of viktor schauberger 851 00:31:54,140 --> 00:31:51,000 that vortexing water kind of 852 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:54,150 supercharges it that ties in with dr. 853 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:56,640 Pollux work and ties in with what Rudolf 854 00:32:01,550 --> 00:31:58,410 Steiner saying I mean these are three of 855 00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:01,560 the bright minds that I appreciate all 856 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:04,470 tied in together into this one subject 857 00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:06,810 that is quite crucial because heart 858 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:08,790 disease is our number one killer and I 859 00:32:13,820 --> 00:32:11,610 just thought that was really awesome to 860 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:13,830 see it all line up like that these all 861 00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:15,510 these alternative people kind of saying 862 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:18,120 the same sort of thing or aspects of all 863 00:32:21,530 --> 00:32:20,130 their work tie into the full 864 00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:21,540 understanding of the heart and I just 865 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,390 think that's awesome yeah I think that 866 00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:26,880 one of the coolest things that I found 867 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:28,880 is that the reason that vortexing 868 00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:32,190 energizes water is because it increases 869 00:32:36,260 --> 00:32:34,920 the contact with oxygen so like when 870 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:36,270 it's happening in a river like when it 871 00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:38,250 flows past a rock there's oxygen in the 872 00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:40,380 air and there's also oxygen coming from 873 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:41,790 little bubbles you know coming out of 874 00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:43,680 the earth from the riverbed and so when 875 00:32:47,660 --> 00:32:45,270 it vortexes like that it's increasing 876 00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:47,670 the contact with oxygen so I think it's 877 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:50,220 no mistake and I can't really say 878 00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:51,690 anything scientifically connecting the 879 00:32:56,210 --> 00:32:53,520 two but I think it's no mistake that our 880 00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:56,220 vortexing organ the heart is placed 881 00:33:00,770 --> 00:32:58,410 right next to our oxygen organ in the 882 00:33:02,990 --> 00:33:00,780 blood and that blood from the heart goes 883 00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:03,000 to the lungs and then back to the heart 884 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,910 that just makes sense to me again I 885 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:07,440 can't say anything that scientifically 886 00:33:10,550 --> 00:33:09,090 connects the two but it wouldn't 887 00:33:13,220 --> 00:33:10,560 surprise me if that was the case that's 888 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:13,230 why that evolves that way yeah that 889 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:15,090 makes sense it's just so interesting 890 00:33:19,010 --> 00:33:17,310 because I hear these people's work and 891 00:33:21,620 --> 00:33:19,020 we always talk about oh man we should 892 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:21,630 implement some of the stuff for a better 893 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:24,210 more natural society and here it is 894 00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:25,740 working right in our own 895 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:27,660 bodies and I guess I just overlooked 896 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:31,020 that yeah it's amazing it is when we 897 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:33,090 talk also so much about the cancer 898 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:36,050 industry how much money there is in 899 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:38,460 chemotherapy treatments and these long 900 00:33:45,049 --> 00:33:42,330 drawn-out processes that really just try 901 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:45,059 to kill the cancer before it kills the 902 00:33:49,790 --> 00:33:46,650 host and you're lucky if you can survive 903 00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:49,800 the process and we have all these people 904 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:52,350 running marathons and wearing ribbons 905 00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:54,690 and donating all this money when really 906 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:56,220 in the history there are quite a few 907 00:34:00,620 --> 00:33:58,770 things that seem to work okay that just 908 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:00,630 weren't getting FDA approval not 909 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:04,410 surprised but the heart health industry 910 00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:06,530 is just as big and we don't really ever 911 00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:09,270 criticize that as much but how often do 912 00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:12,300 you hear people say oh I'm going in for 913 00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:14,940 a double bypass quadruple bypass getting 914 00:34:18,830 --> 00:34:17,399 a stent in the heart and it's kind of 915 00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,840 the same thing then they're told oh 916 00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:20,639 don't eat a steak after this you know 917 00:34:25,609 --> 00:34:23,399 well that's kind of backwards right 918 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:25,619 yeah totally backwards and there's so 919 00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:27,090 many big studies that looked at big 920 00:34:30,859 --> 00:34:28,889 populations there was one that was a 921 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:30,869 heart disease Center in Houston looked 922 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:32,550 at 100,000 heart surgeries over ten 923 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:35,010 years bypass surgeries and their 924 00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:37,770 conclusion there was no benefit to these 925 00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:40,020 surgeries and to me it makes sense 926 00:34:44,899 --> 00:34:43,020 because we're all be found that I swing 927 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:44,909 what broadly did he have you ever been 928 00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:47,129 to like those body world exhibits or the 929 00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:48,750 animal inside out exhibits where they 930 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:50,820 make a plastic cast of the arterial 931 00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,350 system of an animal or a fish or 932 00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:54,300 something like that or a human that's 933 00:34:58,099 --> 00:34:55,950 what he did pretty much he took the 934 00:34:59,840 --> 00:34:58,109 hearts of people who had heart attacks 935 00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:59,850 who didn't have heart attacks or people 936 00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,260 who just died of an accident anything 937 00:35:06,620 --> 00:35:03,359 and he started studying them so he would 938 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:06,630 pump this neoprene or this substance 939 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:08,609 that was liquid and then when it dried 940 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:11,580 it became solid plastic and he pumped 941 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:13,410 that into the arteries and then he took 942 00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:15,180 hydrochloric acid and dissolved away the 943 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:17,369 tissue and he was left with this mold of 944 00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:20,430 the arteries of the heart and like I 945 00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:22,200 said what he found was that anywhere 946 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,700 that there was a more than a 70% 947 00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,640 stenosis or narrowing of an artery like 948 00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:28,800 a main artery of the heart there was at 949 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:32,100 least anywhere from 16 to 30 collateral 950 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:33,570 arteries the arteries that went around 951 00:35:38,030 --> 00:35:36,090 it bypass it by itself so it 952 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:38,040 sense that these bypass surgeries aren't 953 00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:39,930 working because the bypass is usually 954 00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:41,640 already there the body is already 955 00:35:46,010 --> 00:35:44,430 created itself and so when I see the 956 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:46,020 research like that and I find the work 957 00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:47,910 of someone like poor Aldi it makes 958 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:53,040 absolute sense mm-hmm indeed and so what 959 00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:54,690 do we do with this information I mean 960 00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:57,390 proper blood flow it relates to easy 961 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:01,440 water and you mentioned ketones is there 962 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:04,170 a relationship between ketones and easy 963 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:05,970 water or I guess what I'm asking is how 964 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:08,250 can we use this new understanding to 965 00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:12,570 then pivot towards healthy hearts yeah 966 00:36:16,370 --> 00:36:14,760 so to me there's three things that 967 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:16,380 people need to do to get a 968 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:19,500 high-performing heart so one is we need 969 00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:22,050 to reduce our oxidative stress so I'll 970 00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:23,640 explain what that is so oxidative stress 971 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:26,160 is basically when we have molecules in 972 00:36:29,660 --> 00:36:27,330 our body there are certain molecules 973 00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:29,670 that can come around that we can make 974 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:31,980 through the process of making energy or 975 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:34,050 that we can get exogenously from like 976 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:36,060 toxin exposure and they're called free 977 00:36:40,580 --> 00:36:38,610 radicals and that just means that they 978 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:40,590 have an unpaired electron and they want 979 00:36:44,210 --> 00:36:42,810 to be paired really badly I tell 980 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:44,220 patients that it's like the Looney tune 981 00:36:47,330 --> 00:36:45,570 Tasmanian devil they're running around 982 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:47,340 like that causing damage to anything 983 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:49,530 they find trying to find that extra 984 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:51,720 electron and so they'll do that they'll 985 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:52,890 take it from anywhere they'll take it 986 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:54,810 from exclusion zone water they'll take 987 00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:56,490 it from tissue I'll take it from 988 00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:59,130 anywhere we have systems in place that 989 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:00,900 are designed to mitigate them our 990 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:03,330 antioxidant system is designed to donate 991 00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:05,010 that electron without causing damage but 992 00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:06,510 if we get too many of these free 993 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:09,000 radicals that will damage the lining of 994 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:12,330 the endothelium and the exclusion zone 995 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:14,850 water so that's one thing we've got to 996 00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:16,710 reduce the amount of oxidation s with 997 00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:17,940 juice the amount of free radicals that 998 00:37:22,490 --> 00:37:20,220 we're exposed to so that's heating a 999 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:22,500 higher fat diet so we're making less of 1000 00:37:27,350 --> 00:37:24,690 that exhaust so to speak and also really 1001 00:37:30,590 --> 00:37:27,360 reducing your exposure to toxins now 1002 00:37:32,090 --> 00:37:30,600 skaars ketones go ketones are something 1003 00:37:34,850 --> 00:37:32,100 that's made when we're burning fat and 1004 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:34,860 so it actually turns out that our brain 1005 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:37,530 and our heart and most organs prefer to 1006 00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:39,810 burn fat for energy if given the choice 1007 00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:42,780 they will and when you add ketones to 1008 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:45,300 that mix then their efficiency increases 1009 00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:47,250 like up to 28% 1010 00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:50,160 so pretty impressive now when we eat a 1011 00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:52,230 lot of carbohydrates we're training our 1012 00:37:56,780 --> 00:37:54,060 body to burn carbohydrates as fuel and 1013 00:37:58,850 --> 00:37:56,790 when we eat more fat when we get into 1014 00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:58,860 ketosis which is like the buzzword and 1015 00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:01,020 health circles these days we're teaching 1016 00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:03,420 our body to burn fat and then ketones as 1017 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:06,270 well and so before I was talking about 1018 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:08,850 how we can get this surge of adrenaline 1019 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:10,980 or a stress response that could send us 1020 00:38:15,350 --> 00:38:12,690 down that cascade of events that leads 1021 00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:15,360 to a heart attack and one thing that can 1022 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:16,980 prevent that from happening or make it 1023 00:38:20,060 --> 00:38:19,350 less likely to happen is that if we are 1024 00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:20,070 fat-burning 1025 00:38:24,740 --> 00:38:22,260 if our hearts are very good at burning 1026 00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:24,750 fat and used to burning fat then they 1027 00:38:28,430 --> 00:38:26,760 are less likely to convert to burning 1028 00:38:30,410 --> 00:38:28,440 carbohydrate which will create that 1029 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:30,420 lactic acid which will create that burn 1030 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:32,490 like in your heart angina that people 1031 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:34,110 feel and eventually lead to a heart 1032 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:36,510 attack if the stress response is high 1033 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:39,570 enough so being fat burning eating a 1034 00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,630 high fat diets not canola oil not 1035 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,160 vegetable oils those are terrible fats 1036 00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:47,040 but two good saturated fats from 1037 00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:48,660 grass-fed animal products and and 1038 00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:50,760 grass-fed butter and egg yolks and 1039 00:38:53,330 --> 00:38:52,230 things like that those are the good fats 1040 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:53,340 they're gonna teach your body to burn 1041 00:38:58,010 --> 00:38:56,370 fat and then the third one is I've been 1042 00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,020 talking about this stress response 1043 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:00,960 situation and so you know I touched on a 1044 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:03,450 little bit how within our society today 1045 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:07,370 we're living in this society that really 1046 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:10,170 stimulates this stress response because 1047 00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:13,110 we are taking non-life threatening 1048 00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:14,670 situations and having life-threatening 1049 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:17,550 responses to them in our physiology so 1050 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:19,890 this is largely the work of dr. Robert 1051 00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,470 Sapolsky at Stanford and he studied like 1052 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:24,240 the normal stress response and animals 1053 00:39:28,850 --> 00:39:26,610 in the wild and like they don't have one 1054 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:28,860 they're not thinking about anything 1055 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:30,450 stressful or anything like that while 1056 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:32,130 they're grazing on the savanna but if 1057 00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:33,930 something came out to chase them and try 1058 00:39:37,490 --> 00:39:35,340 and kill them they have a stress 1059 00:39:40,190 --> 00:39:37,500 response and they have that response 1060 00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:40,200 until they get away if they get away but 1061 00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:42,060 once they get away the stress response 1062 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:45,480 shuts down whereas we humans we could 1063 00:39:48,410 --> 00:39:46,770 have a stressful event like we could be 1064 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:48,420 in a car accident or almost in a car 1065 00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:49,770 accident and we could be thinking about 1066 00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:51,120 the rest of the day stressed out about 1067 00:39:56,090 --> 00:39:53,820 it and so that really creates an 1068 00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:56,100 imbalance in our stress your nervous 1069 00:40:00,300 --> 00:39:58,260 systems ability to perceive if you're in 1070 00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:00,310 a stressful environment or not 1071 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:03,760 so then again things like being so 1072 00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:05,650 reliant on this capitalist society where 1073 00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:07,300 if we don't have money then your your 1074 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,400 life is threatened I mean that's why we 1075 00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:11,680 have homeless populations is because our 1076 00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:13,180 society is so dependent on money and we 1077 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:15,670 don't have it you could starve or become 1078 00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:18,940 homeless things like social isolation I 1079 00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:21,670 think that technology has allowed us to 1080 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:24,520 communicate very very well across long 1081 00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:26,290 distances but it's also socially 1082 00:40:31,020 --> 00:40:29,440 isolated us we are evolved to be in 1083 00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:31,030 contact with other humans and other 1084 00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:33,960 animals and the more isolated we get 1085 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:36,820 there was a study done in elder people 1086 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:38,610 who had already had a heart attack and 1087 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:42,370 those people who did not have either a 1088 00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:45,760 close friend a spouse or a pet I think 1089 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:47,260 it was like five times more likely to 1090 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:48,850 have another heart attack than people 1091 00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:50,410 who did have those things so we're 1092 00:40:54,570 --> 00:40:52,750 definitely supposed to be in contact 1093 00:40:56,850 --> 00:40:54,580 with other living things were social 1094 00:40:58,770 --> 00:40:56,860 beings and isolation is one of the 1095 00:41:01,150 --> 00:40:58,780 biggest stimulators of that imbalance 1096 00:41:02,530 --> 00:41:01,160 stress response so 1097 00:41:04,210 --> 00:41:02,540 the third thing I think the most 1098 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:04,220 important thing that people need to do 1099 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,370 for healthy hearts is rebalance that 1100 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:10,160 stress response and so these days we 1101 00:41:13,780 --> 00:41:12,290 look up anywhere on Google like how to 1102 00:41:15,010 --> 00:41:13,790 stimulate your vagus nerve you'll find 1103 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:15,020 all these different ways to do it 1104 00:41:19,570 --> 00:41:16,850 and when I look at all those different 1105 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:19,580 techniques that people do it's us 1106 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:21,770 getting back to the state that we 1107 00:41:25,450 --> 00:41:24,170 evolved in so back to nature which also 1108 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:25,460 is very calming to your nervous system 1109 00:41:31,060 --> 00:41:27,770 it's back in contact with people that 1110 00:41:33,010 --> 00:41:31,070 your tribe so to speak it's meditation 1111 00:41:35,650 --> 00:41:33,020 it's yoga it's things like that that 1112 00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:35,660 calms your mind those types of things 1113 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:39,020 are having a physiologic retraining of 1114 00:41:42,310 --> 00:41:40,760 your nervous system and that's probably 1115 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:42,320 the number one thing people need to do 1116 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:44,210 to create healthy hearts and prevent 1117 00:41:49,150 --> 00:41:45,730 heart attacks 1118 00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,160 mmm-hmm and in terms of stressors media 1119 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:51,680 is a big one too like family plan tune 1120 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:53,390 in to the nightly news every night if 1121 00:41:59,620 --> 00:41:55,910 you don't want to be stressed out it's 1122 00:42:02,140 --> 00:41:59,630 also negative oh yeah indeed man this is 1123 00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:02,150 just all so eye-opening especially the 1124 00:42:06,430 --> 00:42:03,830 easy water stuff because you learn oh 1125 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:06,440 this is why infrared saunas are so good 1126 00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:08,090 for us this is why laying out and the 1127 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:10,190 Sun is important it's supercharges the 1128 00:42:17,590 --> 00:42:14,630 water in our cells but what about the 1129 00:42:19,810 --> 00:42:17,600 water we drink is there a way to make 1130 00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,820 sure we're getting the best water done 1131 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:21,920 what do you do do you vortex it do you 1132 00:42:26,410 --> 00:42:23,870 drink spring water that's high in 1133 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:26,420 minerals blend it to make more bubbles I 1134 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:28,730 hear that increase is easy what about 1135 00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:33,410 water yeah so me personally I drink 1136 00:42:36,940 --> 00:42:35,119 mineral water 1137 00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:36,950 buying at the store but also I harvest 1138 00:42:42,430 --> 00:42:39,880 mineral water from a spring close to me 1139 00:42:44,049 --> 00:42:42,440 people go to find a spring calm they can 1140 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:44,059 see if there's one close to them they 1141 00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:46,130 can get their own spring water because 1142 00:42:49,479 --> 00:42:48,079 there's lots of vortexing that happens 1143 00:42:51,549 --> 00:42:49,489 when it comes out of the earth and so 1144 00:42:53,709 --> 00:42:51,559 that water is pretty structured pretty 1145 00:42:55,479 --> 00:42:53,719 energized but it's also full minerals 1146 00:42:57,370 --> 00:42:55,489 which are also very important because if 1147 00:42:59,259 --> 00:42:57,380 you're drinking water that's been 1148 00:43:00,910 --> 00:42:59,269 demineralized that they could actually 1149 00:43:02,410 --> 00:43:00,920 end up stealing minerals from your body 1150 00:43:05,799 --> 00:43:02,420 because water likes to have minerals 1151 00:43:06,999 --> 00:43:05,809 dissolved in it so what I'm doing is for 1152 00:43:09,489 --> 00:43:07,009 drinking water I'm doing the spring 1153 00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,499 water either from the store or from the 1154 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:11,119 spring near my house but for cooking I 1155 00:43:14,829 --> 00:43:12,890 have a filter like if I'm using tap 1156 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:14,839 water and we're on a well so I don't 1157 00:43:18,729 --> 00:43:17,450 know if there's as many toxins as there 1158 00:43:21,249 --> 00:43:18,739 would be in the water if I was in a 1159 00:43:22,299 --> 00:43:21,259 municipal water supply but I still feel 1160 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:22,309 to it because you just don't know what's 1161 00:43:27,339 --> 00:43:24,529 in the ground water these days I filter 1162 00:43:28,749 --> 00:43:27,349 it but then I also bore Tech's it and I 1163 00:43:30,279 --> 00:43:28,759 never really drink that water straight 1164 00:43:32,829 --> 00:43:30,289 though because it's deemed mineralized I 1165 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:32,839 usually just use it for cooking and lots 1166 00:43:36,009 --> 00:43:34,130 of times when I'm cooking it's adding 1167 00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:36,019 minerals to it or I make bone broth with 1168 00:43:40,359 --> 00:43:37,849 it which is gonna add a ton of minerals 1169 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:40,369 with it kind of remineralize it but yeah 1170 00:43:45,099 --> 00:43:42,710 that's where I get most my water yeah 1171 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:45,109 it's just those three sources it's funny 1172 00:43:50,859 --> 00:43:47,089 because people might drink reverse 1173 00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,869 osmosis water or extremely filtered 1174 00:43:54,670 --> 00:43:52,880 water and think that that's as good as 1175 00:43:56,349 --> 00:43:54,680 it gets but a lot of people consider 1176 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:56,359 that dead water and there's a lot of 1177 00:44:00,130 --> 00:43:58,130 positive things in the water that you 1178 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,140 want to keep in while taking out the bad 1179 00:44:05,859 --> 00:44:03,200 and it just gets pretty complex but one 1180 00:44:08,469 --> 00:44:05,869 big aha moment I had and your book was 1181 00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,479 the fact that you know with a lot of 1182 00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:11,119 alternative medicine and places like the 1183 00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:12,499 Gerson Institute where people are 1184 00:44:16,269 --> 00:44:14,390 getting treated for cancer that or they 1185 00:44:17,859 --> 00:44:16,279 come in with other serious illnesses the 1186 00:44:22,269 --> 00:44:17,869 first thing they do is they give you a 1187 00:44:24,789 --> 00:44:22,279 ton of smoothies or juices and a major 1188 00:44:26,650 --> 00:44:24,799 factor in why that works so well other 1189 00:44:28,539 --> 00:44:26,660 than the vitamins and nutrients is that 1190 00:44:30,789 --> 00:44:28,549 you're getting an easy water 1191 00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:30,799 replenishment from the cells of the 1192 00:44:35,859 --> 00:44:33,529 fruits and vegetables and it just folds 1193 00:44:38,589 --> 00:44:35,869 right into making a lot of sense that 1194 00:44:41,259 --> 00:44:38,599 was just something that I didn't know a 1195 00:44:42,969 --> 00:44:41,269 week ago yeah we mentioned like how 1196 00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:42,979 water gets from the ground to the tops 1197 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,390 of the trees oh it's the same thing in 1198 00:44:48,130 --> 00:44:46,160 the plants you know the fruits and 1199 00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,140 vegetables that we're eating if 1200 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:50,000 fresh then they're gonna have structured 1201 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:52,010 water in their cells I mean that's dr. 1202 00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,330 [\h__\h] wrote another book called sales 1203 00:44:57,850 --> 00:44:55,760 gels and the engines of life and he 1204 00:44:59,860 --> 00:44:57,860 talks about the role of this fourth 1205 00:45:02,200 --> 00:44:59,870 phase water in the cells it was just 1206 00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:02,210 absolutely fascinating so the cells and 1207 00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:05,030 these plants also have it now I don't 1208 00:45:11,050 --> 00:45:09,260 know if a plant is shipped from across 1209 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:11,060 the United States and it was picked two 1210 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:13,490 weeks before you eat it if the energy in 1211 00:45:17,470 --> 00:45:15,890 that plan is there goes down the longer 1212 00:45:19,390 --> 00:45:17,480 it's been since it's picked more I don't 1213 00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:19,400 know but I would not be surprised 1214 00:45:23,770 --> 00:45:21,260 because they're probably shipped in 1215 00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:23,780 crates and the plant has lost its life 1216 00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:25,520 source which is the earth and the 1217 00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:26,660 structuring of it so I wouldn't be 1218 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:28,550 surprised if it's lost a lot of its not 1219 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:30,050 only mineral content and nutrient 1220 00:45:34,990 --> 00:45:32,810 content but also its energy in the and 1221 00:45:36,850 --> 00:45:35,000 the water in the cells so the fresher 1222 00:45:38,290 --> 00:45:36,860 the better but yeah I mean you mentioned 1223 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:38,300 like juicing and yeah it's no wonder 1224 00:45:41,290 --> 00:45:39,710 that people will start to get better I 1225 00:45:42,850 --> 00:45:41,300 mean eventually long term they're gonna 1226 00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:42,860 have trouble with blood sugar because 1227 00:45:45,940 --> 00:45:43,910 they're taking away all the fiber and 1228 00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:45,950 everything but we're putting structured 1229 00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:47,270 water directly into the bodies we're 1230 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:49,040 creating higher levels of physiology 1231 00:45:54,310 --> 00:45:51,530 just by structuring the water in their 1232 00:45:56,290 --> 00:45:54,320 bodies it makes complete sense yeah it's 1233 00:45:59,260 --> 00:45:56,300 and that was another eye-opener the no 1234 00:46:01,810 --> 00:45:59,270 pump in plants like there's no heart in 1235 00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:01,820 a palm tree but it gets the water where 1236 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:03,230 it needs to go all the way to the top 1237 00:46:08,650 --> 00:46:05,450 yeah and yeah it's just because this 1238 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:08,660 water kind of does its own thing and you 1239 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:10,910 also have a line in the book where you 1240 00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:13,730 say something to the effect of because 1241 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:16,820 we know easy water in our blood kind of 1242 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:19,850 pumps itself this could even change our 1243 00:46:25,780 --> 00:46:23,450 energy and plumbing systems if we did it 1244 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:25,790 right I mean how much energy do we put 1245 00:46:30,460 --> 00:46:28,640 into these giant water plants and 1246 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:30,470 plumbing systems just to get water 1247 00:46:36,940 --> 00:46:33,610 through all our pipes where if we had 1248 00:46:39,490 --> 00:46:36,950 properly energized or vortexed water it 1249 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,500 would kind of push itself through the 1250 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:41,440 pipes and that would be just a huge 1251 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,200 efficiency win for our society yeah I 1252 00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:46,880 mean opportunities abound there if we 1253 00:46:50,650 --> 00:46:49,190 learn to use that technology or I have 1254 00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:50,660 really technology it's more like a 1255 00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:52,820 discovery of water yeah properly you 1256 00:46:56,890 --> 00:46:55,190 know we could do away with dams you know 1257 00:46:58,930 --> 00:46:56,900 all this hydroelectric energy we having 1258 00:47:00,340 --> 00:46:58,940 to create like we don't need it we don't 1259 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:00,350 need the river flow we could create flow 1260 00:47:03,790 --> 00:47:02,090 ourself you know or 1261 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:03,800 design a system where the water would 1262 00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:05,450 flow itself and so we don't have to 1263 00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:07,310 destroy these ecosystems about putting 1264 00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:10,310 up dams and things I think but we'll see 1265 00:47:14,110 --> 00:47:11,630 if anybody gets ahold of this technology 1266 00:47:17,620 --> 00:47:14,120 and funds the research to develop 1267 00:47:19,810 --> 00:47:17,630 devices like that yeah it would be 1268 00:47:22,450 --> 00:47:19,820 awesome to see just one city try to 1269 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,460 tackle that and then be able to study 1270 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:24,800 the data of how the people who live 1271 00:47:29,830 --> 00:47:27,530 there were affected and in terms of the 1272 00:47:32,770 --> 00:47:29,840 ketogenic diet and getting more quality 1273 00:47:35,740 --> 00:47:32,780 fats in our diet I still kind of 1274 00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:35,750 struggle with this I end up just I know 1275 00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,030 it's not right to equate protein and fat 1276 00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:40,160 but I almost just do I just eat a lot of 1277 00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:41,990 protein and hope well there's some fat 1278 00:47:45,970 --> 00:47:44,480 in there too but that's not the right 1279 00:47:49,210 --> 00:47:45,980 approach and I got a little list online 1280 00:47:51,310 --> 00:47:49,220 tell me what you think you know if 1281 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:51,320 there's any changes you would make but 1282 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:54,770 this article says the 10 best foods high 1283 00:48:01,210 --> 00:47:57,770 in fat would be avocados cheese dark 1284 00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:01,220 chocolate whole eggs fatty fish nuts 1285 00:48:07,060 --> 00:48:05,240 chia seeds and extra virgin olive oil is 1286 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:07,070 there something missing how would you 1287 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:10,210 adjust that the thing missing is the 1288 00:48:15,490 --> 00:48:12,770 saturated fats from animals like red 1289 00:48:17,590 --> 00:48:15,500 meat I mean it's got this major negative 1290 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:17,600 connotation and there's absolutely no 1291 00:48:22,540 --> 00:48:19,310 reason for it to I mean there's people 1292 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:22,550 that are thriving on all red meat diets 1293 00:48:26,530 --> 00:48:24,890 that have been for years it doesn't mean 1294 00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:26,540 that we all should do that or that we 1295 00:48:29,890 --> 00:48:27,830 would all thrive like they would but 1296 00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:29,900 it's gotten this bad rap and I don't 1297 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:32,240 understand why I mean all these studies 1298 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:34,850 about how high protein will destroy your 1299 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,890 kidneys or cause heart disease and then 1300 00:48:41,470 --> 00:48:39,680 we already explained how cholesterol and 1301 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:41,480 narrowing of arteries won't cause a 1302 00:48:44,290 --> 00:48:42,290 heart attack 1303 00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:44,300 well atherosclerosis is not a good thing 1304 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:45,830 to have it's not going to directly lead 1305 00:48:49,630 --> 00:48:47,450 to a heart attack but I think that 1306 00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:49,640 that's the biggest thing that's missing 1307 00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:51,710 from that list is that I think 1308 00:48:56,740 --> 00:48:54,110 evolutionarily and you can look at the 1309 00:49:00,100 --> 00:48:56,750 work of Mickey bender in Tel Aviv 1310 00:49:01,930 --> 00:49:00,110 University I think humans are pretty 1311 00:49:04,330 --> 00:49:01,940 much designed to eat meats we've evolved 1312 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:04,340 the eat plants as well and we can do 1313 00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:05,930 that and we can survive on plants and 1314 00:49:09,250 --> 00:49:07,430 there's some plants that can be argued 1315 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:09,260 to they're good for us but I think that 1316 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:11,810 the good fats from either grass-fed or 1317 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:15,250 wild animals and from egg yolks and 1318 00:49:19,650 --> 00:49:16,630 butter and things like that I think 1319 00:49:22,410 --> 00:49:19,660 those are the fats that give us life I 1320 00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:22,420 think that hey they're gonna convert you 1321 00:49:28,190 --> 00:49:24,760 to burning fat and making ketones and 1322 00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:28,200 ketogenic more quickly but if we're so 1323 00:49:32,609 --> 00:49:30,910 designed or evolved to to burn that fat 1324 00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:32,619 and that fat lots of times comes with 1325 00:49:36,030 --> 00:49:34,030 protein there's no way that that protein 1326 00:49:38,099 --> 00:49:36,040 could be bad for you I mean humans have 1327 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:38,109 been eating meat for millions of 1328 00:49:42,210 --> 00:49:40,570 millions of years and heart disease is 1329 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:42,220 in the epidemic that we're seeing it 1330 00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:45,730 today is it's only maybe 200 years or so 1331 00:49:49,859 --> 00:49:47,500 that we've seen this massive rise in 1332 00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:49,869 heart disease now where there's evidence 1333 00:49:54,510 --> 00:49:52,300 that ancient Egyptians have 1334 00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:54,520 atherosclerosis they did like CT scans 1335 00:49:58,859 --> 00:49:56,470 on the mummies and they found like I 1336 00:50:01,650 --> 00:49:58,869 think it was like 30 or 40 percent of 1337 00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:01,660 them had atherosclerosis but they were a 1338 00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:03,849 farming culture they were eating lots of 1339 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:06,609 different grains it's very well known 1340 00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:08,050 based on the side of their culture that 1341 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:09,310 they didn't need meat that much it 1342 00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:11,650 wasn't a huge part of their diet and so 1343 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:13,599 that's the big thing missing there is 1344 00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:15,970 that people really need to get over this 1345 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:18,670 meat or this animal fat or saturated fat 1346 00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:20,290 causes heart disease or that it's bad 1347 00:50:25,140 --> 00:50:23,020 for you it's probably one of the best as 1348 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:25,150 long as it's from a wild or grass-fed 1349 00:50:30,810 --> 00:50:28,510 very naturally raised animal mm-hmm well 1350 00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:30,820 said I thought that's exactly what you 1351 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:34,030 might bring up the fat from animals and 1352 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:36,250 butter as well do you have a problem 1353 00:50:42,329 --> 00:50:41,170 with with cheese or dairy well this 1354 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:42,339 one's kind of near and dear to me 1355 00:50:47,579 --> 00:50:45,010 because if we look at the mechanism of 1356 00:50:49,859 --> 00:50:47,589 autoimmune disease a lot of it can be 1357 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:49,869 that there's this molecular mimicry so 1358 00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:52,210 basically I can get leaky gut which 1359 00:50:56,310 --> 00:50:55,000 means that things in my intestines are 1360 00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:56,320 leaking into the bloodstream before 1361 00:51:00,270 --> 00:50:57,520 they're supposed to because there's 1362 00:51:02,550 --> 00:51:00,280 holes in my gut and there are certain 1363 00:51:04,859 --> 00:51:02,560 molecules in foods that have been linked 1364 00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:04,869 to a certain autoimmune diseases one of 1365 00:51:08,609 --> 00:51:07,150 them is gluten for thyroid to see or 1366 00:51:11,250 --> 00:51:08,619 hypothyroid like Hashimoto's 1367 00:51:13,230 --> 00:51:11,260 hypothyroidism and so if some of those 1368 00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:13,240 gluten molecules leak into the 1369 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:14,500 bloodstream when they're not supposed to 1370 00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:15,970 and then your body has an autoimmune 1371 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:17,260 reaction to them because they're not 1372 00:51:21,540 --> 00:51:19,510 supposed to be there well some of those 1373 00:51:23,190 --> 00:51:21,550 look just similar enough to cells in the 1374 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:23,200 thyroid that your body also attacks the 1375 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:25,930 thyroid and so for me it is close to 1376 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:28,480 home because casein protein found in 1377 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:29,170 dairy 1378 00:51:33,420 --> 00:51:31,330 it looks very similar to beta cells in 1379 00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:33,430 the pancreas that make insulin and so I 1380 00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:35,980 think that at some point in my life I 1381 00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:37,600 probably had pretty severe leaky gut and 1382 00:51:41,820 --> 00:51:39,720 I definitely had all kinds of dairy 1383 00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:41,830 pasteurized dairy at that which was 1384 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:43,990 already damaged protein and when I was a 1385 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:46,990 kid and I think that it's very likely 1386 00:51:50,820 --> 00:51:48,970 that some of those proteins leaked into 1387 00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:50,830 my bloodstream my body attacked that 1388 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,420 casein protein and then also attacked 1389 00:51:57,590 --> 00:51:54,640 the beta cells in my pancreas so that's 1390 00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,600 not to say that no one should have dairy 1391 00:52:01,800 --> 00:51:59,440 obviously a certain percentage of the 1392 00:52:03,930 --> 00:52:01,810 population has evolved to eat dairy 1393 00:52:05,490 --> 00:52:03,940 because we have that lactase persistence 1394 00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:05,500 but then other people are lactose 1395 00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:07,240 intolerance because they don't have that 1396 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:09,190 lactase persistence and so they can't do 1397 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:11,770 that but I think that I mean humans are 1398 00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:13,690 still evolving and I think that some of 1399 00:52:17,820 --> 00:52:15,160 us have evolved to handle dairy just 1400 00:52:20,670 --> 00:52:17,830 fine and we get raw grass-fed dairy that 1401 00:52:22,590 --> 00:52:20,680 can be a very nutrient-dense food source 1402 00:52:25,290 --> 00:52:22,600 for us and a good source of fat but 1403 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:25,300 others of us may do better staying away 1404 00:52:31,470 --> 00:52:28,510 from it I just think that depends on how 1405 00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:31,480 long your ancestors have been using milk 1406 00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:33,700 as a food source because there were 1407 00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:35,020 certain areas of the world where it 1408 00:52:37,860 --> 00:52:36,640 became necessary and there were other 1409 00:52:39,810 --> 00:52:37,870 areas of the world where it wasn't and 1410 00:52:41,580 --> 00:52:39,820 so it's really hard to trace your 1411 00:52:43,110 --> 00:52:41,590 genetic line these days and figure that 1412 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:43,120 out but maybe one day we'll have some 1413 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:44,260 sort of testing that could tell us that 1414 00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:46,690 then we're getting pretty close but if I 1415 00:52:49,290 --> 00:52:48,100 was gonna do an elimination diet and 1416 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:49,300 figure out what foods were triggering 1417 00:52:53,010 --> 00:52:51,130 people I would not include a dairy and 1418 00:52:55,980 --> 00:52:53,020 then have them add it back and see if 1419 00:52:57,930 --> 00:52:55,990 they did well with it mmm yes well I 1420 00:52:59,460 --> 00:52:57,940 hope my ancestors have been doing it for 1421 00:53:01,710 --> 00:52:59,470 a while because I have quite a dairy 1422 00:53:03,450 --> 00:53:01,720 addiction more so I could give up sugar 1423 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:03,460 a lot easier than I could give up dairy 1424 00:53:08,670 --> 00:53:07,210 I think yeah and so with the ketogenic 1425 00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:08,680 diet I hear about it on a lot of 1426 00:53:13,350 --> 00:53:11,500 podcasts and it almost seems like you 1427 00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:13,360 already have diabetes with all the blood 1428 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:15,400 monitoring and the daily attention to 1429 00:53:19,590 --> 00:53:17,290 detail and the biohacking that is 1430 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:19,600 involved with the people who are really 1431 00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:22,480 into the ketogenic diet I just don't 1432 00:53:26,790 --> 00:53:25,000 know that that kind of monitoring and 1433 00:53:28,260 --> 00:53:26,800 stuff is something I could keep up with 1434 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:28,270 and it doesn't have to be that way as 1435 00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:29,530 long as you're eating the right things 1436 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:32,670 you could probably forego all the insane 1437 00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:35,310 monitoring but how do you feel about 1438 00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:39,280 ketone supplements or pills or taking 1439 00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:40,780 them in that form 1440 00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:44,020 I'm always cautious about any supplement 1441 00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:46,630 I think that they can be useful is 1442 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:48,790 dodging those ketones if I had someone 1443 00:53:52,020 --> 00:53:51,010 come to me and was that terrible risk 1444 00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:52,030 for having a heart attack and really 1445 00:53:55,410 --> 00:53:53,710 wanted to immediately increase the 1446 00:53:57,900 --> 00:53:55,420 function of their heart exogenous 1447 00:54:00,090 --> 00:53:57,910 ketones can help your body get into that 1448 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:00,100 fat-burning mode quicker but that's not 1449 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,830 something I want somebody to rely on for 1450 00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:05,200 a long time I want to teach their body 1451 00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:07,180 through diet to make those ketones 1452 00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:09,340 themselves but that's the only time I 1453 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:11,800 would ever use them and oftentimes I 1454 00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:13,210 think that these supplements that we 1455 00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:16,480 have are people use them as excuses but 1456 00:54:20,220 --> 00:54:17,830 they don't use as well as they should or 1457 00:54:21,690 --> 00:54:20,230 they stray from keto and they use these 1458 00:54:23,940 --> 00:54:21,700 things to get back in Iquitos like this 1459 00:54:26,430 --> 00:54:23,950 little hack they can do I'm not a fan of 1460 00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:26,440 that because I mean if you read health 1461 00:54:29,730 --> 00:54:28,420 evolution you know I think that if we're 1462 00:54:30,930 --> 00:54:29,740 all making the best decisions possible 1463 00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:30,940 for our health it's actually better for 1464 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:33,070 the planet most people to rely on things 1465 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:34,930 like that that will keep them living 1466 00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:36,970 this destructive lifestyle and the mail 1467 00:54:41,730 --> 00:54:39,190 will hack their way back to their health 1468 00:54:44,250 --> 00:54:41,740 so that make sense mm-hmm it does it 1469 00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:44,260 does and people really should look for 1470 00:54:50,580 --> 00:54:48,310 local food sources I try to on the show 1471 00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:50,590 give people as many options as we can 1472 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:52,660 but it's a national audience a worldwide 1473 00:54:57,780 --> 00:54:55,210 audience and that's kind of what we're 1474 00:55:00,120 --> 00:54:57,790 trying to get away from is some kind of 1475 00:55:02,430 --> 00:55:00,130 supply that makes it nationwide because 1476 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:02,440 it's just not the right way but I'm sure 1477 00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:05,770 there are local meat producing farms in 1478 00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:08,910 your area I'm sure there's plenty of 1479 00:55:13,410 --> 00:55:10,510 subscription-based 1480 00:55:16,050 --> 00:55:13,420 fruit and vegetable baskets you can get 1481 00:55:17,970 --> 00:55:16,060 from local farms in your area and it 1482 00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:17,980 just takes a couple of google searches 1483 00:55:22,830 --> 00:55:20,230 and you could really make a huge impact 1484 00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:22,840 and doing that and save yourself 1485 00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:24,550 precious time because they send it right 1486 00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:27,220 to your house that's right I mean 1487 00:55:30,270 --> 00:55:28,660 farmers markets obviously there's 1488 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:30,280 farmers markets everywhere and obviously 1489 00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:31,510 you're having to deal with things in 1490 00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,740 season but that's the way we should be 1491 00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:34,720 eating anyways but also there's a good 1492 00:55:38,910 --> 00:55:37,390 website eat wild calm where you can go 1493 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:38,920 and look for all like the places where 1494 00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:40,870 you can get grass fed and pastured 1495 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:43,510 animal products closely farms near you 1496 00:55:48,210 --> 00:55:45,210 that you can go to and get them from 1497 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:48,220 cool eat wild calm that's one I did not 1498 00:55:54,060 --> 00:55:51,250 know about so awesome yeah and of course 1499 00:55:55,530 --> 00:55:54,070 you have these two books both of them 1500 00:55:57,390 --> 00:55:55,540 are really great I enjoyed reading 1501 00:56:00,060 --> 00:55:57,400 through them both is there anything else 1502 00:56:01,530 --> 00:56:00,070 people should know about your website or 1503 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:01,540 anything before I cut you loose I mean 1504 00:56:06,510 --> 00:56:03,310 you have this coaching going on and it 1505 00:56:08,790 --> 00:56:06,520 is quite reasonable price wise yeah so I 1506 00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,800 mean every saucer health calm is where 1507 00:56:12,810 --> 00:56:10,960 I'm doing my health coaching but I'm 1508 00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,820 also working on I mean I have a blog 1509 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:15,040 there that I'm working on trying to put 1510 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:16,810 out interesting things and then I'm 1511 00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:19,450 working on developing courses so one 1512 00:56:23,580 --> 00:56:22,240 about the heart one about evolution and 1513 00:56:25,890 --> 00:56:23,590 like mastering evolution to achieve 1514 00:56:28,350 --> 00:56:25,900 health and then probably one about 1515 00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:28,360 autoimmunity as well working on those is 1516 00:56:32,010 --> 00:56:29,260 I'm trying to get as many different 1517 00:56:33,180 --> 00:56:32,020 avenues for people to hear the message 1518 00:56:34,290 --> 00:56:33,190 and and improve their health you know 1519 00:56:36,210 --> 00:56:34,300 whether they like to read a book or 1520 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:36,220 listen to podcasts where do the health 1521 00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:38,530 coaching or do online courses like I'm 1522 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:39,910 trying to get as many different ways out 1523 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:42,730 there as possible so I'll have those up 1524 00:56:46,650 --> 00:56:44,770 on the website hopefully if I can figure 1525 00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:46,660 out how to do it soon but that's what 1526 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:48,640 I'm working on now and then yeah trying 1527 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:49,930 to make the website a place where 1528 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:51,370 there's many different resources as 1529 00:56:55,110 --> 00:56:53,530 possible so I'll be doing the ebooks and 1530 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:55,120 things like that people can find all 1531 00:56:59,340 --> 00:56:57,370 kinds of information there awesome man 1532 00:57:01,620 --> 00:56:59,350 yeah build that business it's a noble 1533 00:57:03,090 --> 00:57:01,630 thing it's a great way to make a living 1534 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:03,100 we all have to make a living you can 1535 00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:05,770 either be a cog in the big machine or 1536 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:09,940 find some way to you know live the path 1537 00:57:14,910 --> 00:57:11,650 you want to live bring out your true 1538 00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,920 self and your expertise and kind of 1539 00:57:18,930 --> 00:57:16,960 fight back against it while still being 1540 00:57:20,670 --> 00:57:18,940 able to pay the bills I mean we're not 1541 00:57:22,530 --> 00:57:20,680 gonna change the whole system we can 1542 00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:22,540 only change our position in it and how 1543 00:57:27,150 --> 00:57:24,640 we react to it so I think that's great 1544 00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,160 yeah and show people a way to do it as 1545 00:57:33,330 --> 00:57:29,440 well that's the one goal for me indeed 1546 00:57:35,550 --> 00:57:33,340 cheers to that so right on man well I 1547 00:57:38,670 --> 00:57:35,560 definitely learned a lot Congrats on the 1548 00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:38,680 very difficult task of changing your own 1549 00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:41,110 bad habits and overcoming much of the 1550 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:42,760 big machine throughout your own personal 1551 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:44,650 research and commitment I know it's not 1552 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:47,250 easy and thanks for paying it forward 1553 00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:49,330 amen thanks for having me on it's been a 1554 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:50,950 blast you got it 1555 00:58:01,650 --> 00:57:58,020 sweet mother mariya the mushroom people 1556 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:01,660 dr. Steven Hussey bringing all sorts of 1557 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:03,490 fun stuff to the table and I hope you 1558 00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:07,330 had a good time I know when dr. Hussey 1559 00:58:12,930 --> 00:58:10,510 contacted me and sent over his books and 1560 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:12,940 I saw the fourth phase of water was a 1561 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:16,450 chapter in his heart book I knew it was 1562 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:18,490 gonna be worth getting into I mean this 1563 00:58:23,690 --> 00:58:21,370 ties right back to the water alchemy 1564 00:58:26,220 --> 00:58:23,700 episode with Shama engineer and 1565 00:58:29,130 --> 00:58:26,230 understanding this about the body is 1566 00:58:31,350 --> 00:58:29,140 really interesting to me that this 1567 00:58:33,690 --> 00:58:31,360 negatively-charged structured water is 1568 00:58:35,490 --> 00:58:33,700 what actually is in our cells and that 1569 00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:35,500 it's this negative charge that helps the 1570 00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:38,830 blood move through our veins is pretty 1571 00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:41,590 mind-blowing to me it's energy its 1572 00:58:46,590 --> 00:58:44,950 motion with very few ingredients because 1573 00:58:49,770 --> 00:58:46,600 it makes so much sense it speaks to 1574 00:58:52,860 --> 00:58:49,780 magnetism and charge and these sorts of 1575 00:58:55,530 --> 00:58:52,870 ether physics principles being right 1576 00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:55,540 there in plain sight it explains why 1577 00:59:00,060 --> 00:58:57,760 sunlight helps with blood flow and why 1578 00:59:03,660 --> 00:59:00,070 saw as an infrared light are so good for 1579 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:03,670 us it's like the things her show burger 1580 00:59:10,910 --> 00:59:07,090 was on being right in the body and some 1581 00:59:13,830 --> 00:59:10,920 of our most fundamental systems because 1582 00:59:16,230 --> 00:59:13,840 honestly it is pretty illogical to think 1583 00:59:18,330 --> 00:59:16,240 that the heart is responsible for 1584 00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:18,340 pumping blood through thousands of 1585 00:59:22,650 --> 00:59:19,900 different channels and then back again 1586 00:59:25,650 --> 00:59:22,660 and with heart disease being such a 1587 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:25,660 killer this understanding goes a long 1588 00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:29,050 way in flipping the script on heart 1589 00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:32,500 health and it's this type of thinking 1590 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:36,100 this simple natural holistic type of 1591 00:59:43,860 --> 00:59:39,610 perspective that leads to flying saucers 1592 00:59:46,350 --> 00:59:43,870 I'm serious I absolutely think it's why 1593 00:59:48,930 --> 00:59:46,360 we are not taught about blood this way 1594 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:48,940 or why they don't teach easy water in 1595 00:59:56,330 --> 00:59:52,570 school because anti-gravity properties 1596 00:59:59,180 --> 00:59:56,340 are probably not that complex 1597 01:00:01,540 --> 00:59:59,190 the Flying Saucer pie is really just 1598 01:00:05,090 --> 01:00:01,550 made up of natural magnetism 1599 01:00:07,580 --> 01:00:05,100 something-something rotation and using 1600 01:00:09,380 --> 01:00:07,590 the environment and for example the fact 1601 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:09,390 that the earth has a net negative charge 1602 01:00:16,370 --> 01:00:13,170 to engineer a repelling force to that 1603 01:00:18,110 --> 01:00:16,380 and there is more than one way to get 1604 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:18,120 there to check out some of these 1605 01:00:24,290 --> 01:00:21,690 alternative science conferences you know 1606 01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:24,300 everyone asks me why I don't go to 1607 01:00:29,330 --> 01:00:27,270 conspiracy conferences anymore and I 1608 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:29,340 just say well you can go to either 1609 01:00:34,580 --> 01:00:31,770 conferences or secret science Tesla 1610 01:00:36,380 --> 01:00:34,590 conferences and see people working on 1611 01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:36,390 the very stuff that conspiracy 1612 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:39,480 conferences are still debating the 1613 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:43,970 existence of man I didn't expect to go 1614 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:47,850 so far into this tangent so quickly but 1615 01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:50,010 I just think it's another example of the 1616 01:00:56,900 --> 01:00:52,920 scientific paradigm being twisted and 1617 01:00:59,600 --> 01:00:56,910 warped and complexified and all these 1618 01:01:02,000 --> 01:00:59,610 obstacles worked around to come up with 1619 01:01:04,550 --> 01:01:02,010 an explanation that doesn't reveal the 1620 01:01:07,820 --> 01:01:04,560 simple universal truths in our 1621 01:01:10,130 --> 01:01:07,830 environment and how they work so I 1622 01:01:12,620 --> 01:01:10,140 really liked this show and we focused on 1623 01:01:14,990 --> 01:01:12,630 the heart quite a bit because of this 1624 01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,000 stuff and we didn't get too deep into 1625 01:01:20,570 --> 01:01:17,040 his health evolution book until the 1626 01:01:22,850 --> 01:01:20,580 second half which as I said people here 1627 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:22,860 will have mixed feelings about using a 1628 01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:26,130 term like evolution but I look for ways 1629 01:01:31,310 --> 01:01:28,860 to agree with people rather than looking 1630 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:31,320 for points of difference to focus on and 1631 01:01:36,890 --> 01:01:34,410 hammer home so if we just think of his 1632 01:01:39,710 --> 01:01:36,900 advice as in line with the natural 1633 01:01:40,250 --> 01:01:39,720 systems of the environment that's what 1634 01:01:42,890 --> 01:01:40,260 I'm after 1635 01:01:44,990 --> 01:01:42,900 he calls it evolution but what he's 1636 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:45,000 looking at is how humans synced up with 1637 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:47,130 their environment for hundreds of 1638 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:49,770 thousands of years before we tried to 1639 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:52,050 take shortcuts and beat the thing into 1640 01:01:56,270 --> 01:01:54,210 submission I mean that's really what 1641 01:02:00,650 --> 01:01:56,280 agriculture was it was gaming the system 1642 01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,660 and it definitely had consequences 1643 01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:02,640 but I like the idea of looking back to 1644 01:02:08,030 --> 01:02:05,310 the past and working with our knowledge 1645 01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:08,040 of our ecosystem to engineer abundance 1646 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:11,520 and all that good stuff the idea of 1647 01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:14,730 going back to nature but bringing her 1648 01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:18,480 modern technology with it it's what I 1649 01:02:23,570 --> 01:02:19,920 thought was attractive about The Venus 1650 01:02:25,420 --> 01:02:23,580 Project initially sure the proposed 1651 01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:25,430 vision of Jacque fresco is all 1652 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:29,220 controlled by a central AI but if you 1653 01:02:35,210 --> 01:02:31,290 can get past that the models looked 1654 01:02:38,570 --> 01:02:35,220 quite nice so I really like where dr. 1655 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:38,580 hussies focus is we didn't get to touch 1656 01:02:42,110 --> 01:02:40,410 on this but in his book he even talks 1657 01:02:44,150 --> 01:02:42,120 about little tricks of language that 1658 01:02:47,690 --> 01:02:44,160 have screwed us up so bad like our 1659 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:47,700 multiple meanings for the word fad we 1660 01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:50,880 think eating fat equals getting fat but 1661 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:52,110 in most other languages they have 1662 01:02:57,260 --> 01:02:54,570 completely different words for dietary 1663 01:02:59,720 --> 01:02:57,270 fat and becoming fat so they don't get 1664 01:03:03,050 --> 01:02:59,730 tripped up on that one equals the other 1665 01:03:06,590 --> 01:03:03,060 element also if someone is unclean we 1666 01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:06,600 call them dirty but the dirt is what 1667 01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:08,310 makes us healthy in a lot of ways so 1668 01:03:13,550 --> 01:03:11,520 just the words we use sometimes screw up 1669 01:03:16,670 --> 01:03:13,560 our understanding of things that are 1670 01:03:19,550 --> 01:03:16,680 actually good for us we have this 1671 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:19,560 subconscious aversion because of our 1672 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:22,650 language by accident or design I don't 1673 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:26,370 know but it ain't good anyway it's nice 1674 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:29,010 to be getting a show out for may I know 1675 01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:30,690 we're a little late to the May party 1676 01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:33,660 both me and my special lady had family 1677 01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:36,420 come in town and I've also had some 1678 01:03:41,810 --> 01:03:39,720 backend work that needed attention but 1679 01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:41,820 we're here now and I am psyched about 1680 01:03:49,310 --> 01:03:45,420 what's coming in fact I can now safely 1681 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:49,320 say that dr. [\h__\h] is our next guest 1682 01:03:56,210 --> 01:03:52,880 all right we did it it's happening and 1683 01:03:59,060 --> 01:03:56,220 while we did retread a little bit of 1684 01:04:02,120 --> 01:03:59,070 ground from today once we get past the 1685 01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:02,130 introductory stuff and I got into some 1686 01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:05,040 questions that chemin jr. gave me dr. 1687 01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:07,710 Pollock share some things and go some 1688 01:04:12,860 --> 01:04:10,140 places I did not expect him to go and 1689 01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,870 it's really exciting but that's mostly 1690 01:04:15,350 --> 01:04:14,400 in the Plus show 1691 01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,360 because that's just the way 1692 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:17,760 conversations work but he did mention 1693 01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:20,970 that maybe he said too much which is 1694 01:04:27,260 --> 01:04:25,680 always music to my ears so get ready had 1695 01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:27,270 I actually recorded a show with dr. 1696 01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:29,910 [\h__\h] before this one you know I might 1697 01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:32,910 have switched up where our focus was but 1698 01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:35,460 sometimes with these really big names 1699 01:04:39,410 --> 01:04:37,500 that I don't think I'm ever going to be 1700 01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:39,420 able to talk to directly we have to talk 1701 01:04:46,820 --> 01:04:43,230 to other people about their work call it 1702 01:04:49,970 --> 01:04:46,830 the THC insurance policy but regardless 1703 01:04:52,130 --> 01:04:49,980 we do do a little double dip in this 1704 01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:52,140 month but I hope people think this 1705 01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:53,910 information is so interesting that 1706 01:04:59,240 --> 01:04:57,720 that's fine but next week's Plus show is 1707 01:05:01,640 --> 01:04:59,250 really something to behold 1708 01:05:03,890 --> 01:05:01,650 and I should even say that you know I 1709 01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:03,900 shouldn't over hype the thing because 1710 01:05:08,060 --> 01:05:05,910 that always ruins everything right no 1711 01:05:09,890 --> 01:05:08,070 one likes going into a movie that all 1712 01:05:12,350 --> 01:05:09,900 your buddies have said oh this is a 10 1713 01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:12,360 out of 10 for sure you watch it you're 1714 01:05:17,930 --> 01:05:16,380 like it's good it's alright but it 1715 01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:17,940 doesn't live up to the expectations 1716 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:21,990 because you saw it last and other people 1717 01:05:29,690 --> 01:05:27,210 like me built it up but I'm happy about 1718 01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:29,700 it you're gonna like it I think but 1719 01:05:35,870 --> 01:05:31,680 today's Plus show is great too we talked 1720 01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,880 about how our pets keep us healthy wild 1721 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:38,160 verse domestic fruits and vegetables I 1722 01:05:41,150 --> 01:05:39,210 mean you hear that all the time with 1723 01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:41,160 animals but this actually comes into 1724 01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:44,880 play with plant life as well of course 1725 01:05:50,090 --> 01:05:47,280 you got to give a little dedication to 1726 01:05:51,590 --> 01:05:50,100 the modern EMF soup that we're living in 1727 01:05:53,090 --> 01:05:51,600 and what it's doing to our bodies if 1728 01:05:55,940 --> 01:05:53,100 you're gonna do a health show it's got 1729 01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:55,950 to be there we talked about what doctor 1730 01:06:01,820 --> 01:05:58,890 Hussey calls the selfish solution new 1731 01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:01,830 and exotic healing technologies and the 1732 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:04,710 good doctors health coaching success 1733 01:06:10,460 --> 01:06:07,770 stories so treat yourself of course a 1734 01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:10,470 podcast like ours is going to have way 1735 01:06:16,370 --> 01:06:12,870 more free listeners than paid it's like 1736 01:06:19,730 --> 01:06:16,380 one in 20 actually get the full show but 1737 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:19,740 man it would drive me crazy if I thought 1738 01:06:23,540 --> 01:06:21,330 the first hour was good enough and 1739 01:06:27,110 --> 01:06:23,550 valuable enough to keep tuning into it 1740 01:06:27,980 --> 01:06:27,120 and then not get that second hour I mean 1741 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:27,990 look I'm not trying 1742 01:06:34,970 --> 01:06:31,410 to drive anyone crazy but I think I put 1743 01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:34,980 more time into preparation and more time 1744 01:06:40,700 --> 01:06:38,400 dedicated to editing than so many other 1745 01:06:44,030 --> 01:06:40,710 podcasts and I just think it's worth 1746 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:44,040 eight bucks sign up at the higher side 1747 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:47,010 chats plus calm even for just a month or 1748 01:06:50,990 --> 01:06:49,410 two and see for yourself at the full 1749 01:06:54,590 --> 01:06:51,000 episodes are definitely worth your time 1750 01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:54,600 you can always cancel and I'd rather you 1751 01:07:00,500 --> 01:06:58,130 shoot me one or two eight dollar tips 1752 01:07:04,250 --> 01:07:00,510 download a bunch of your favorite shows 1753 01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:04,260 and then cancel then never hear them at 1754 01:07:10,910 --> 01:07:07,440 all but that said the joint session this 1755 01:07:13,609 --> 01:07:10,920 month is on the 20th it's a Monday it's 1756 01:07:15,380 --> 01:07:13,619 Victoria Day in Canada and we're gonna 1757 01:07:17,930 --> 01:07:15,390 be drinking a little drink smoking a 1758 01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:17,940 little smoke and turning the THC stage 1759 01:07:23,930 --> 01:07:21,150 over to the fine people who listen the 1760 01:07:26,210 --> 01:07:23,940 last one was about three hours maybe 1761 01:07:28,910 --> 01:07:26,220 even more and we got some great stuff 1762 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:28,920 and I know a lot more people wanted to 1763 01:07:33,290 --> 01:07:31,290 talk but it's just the nature of the 1764 01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:33,300 beast a lot of people answered my call 1765 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:36,240 that our previous one was pretty light 1766 01:07:43,490 --> 01:07:38,970 and I also got the YouTube thing going 1767 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:43,500 so we had a lot of people and in that 1768 01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:45,570 situation we're just never gonna get to 1769 01:07:50,330 --> 01:07:48,030 everyone I'm sorry about that I've 1770 01:07:53,660 --> 01:07:50,340 gotten some emails from people who have 1771 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:53,670 taken that quite personally but don't I 1772 01:07:59,359 --> 01:07:55,530 don't know any of you so how could I 1773 01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:59,369 really single you out to be ignored you 1774 01:08:03,650 --> 01:08:01,440 know it's like if you attend the price 1775 01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:03,660 is right but you don't get picked it's 1776 01:08:07,970 --> 01:08:05,400 not because Drew Carey has some kind of 1777 01:08:11,110 --> 01:08:07,980 problem with you but to those folks 1778 01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:11,120 hopefully I'll get to you next time 1779 01:08:16,809 --> 01:08:13,280 I appreciate everyone who listens I have 1780 01:08:18,730 --> 01:08:16,819 the best job in the world and I tried to 1781 01:08:20,530 --> 01:08:18,740 take it quite seriously and produce a 1782 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:20,540 good show for you so I hope you think 1783 01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:24,530 that that is still happening good useful 1784 01:08:29,829 --> 01:08:27,230 show today big dr. Pollock interview 1785 01:08:31,900 --> 01:08:29,839 coming up next and many other good 1786 01:08:32,380 --> 01:08:31,910 things on the calendar so I'll see you 1787 01:08:35,050 --> 01:08:32,390 then 1788 01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:35,060 big thanks to dr. Hussey check him out 1789 01:08:39,940 --> 01:08:37,490 for his consultations and coaching if 1790 01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:39,950 you need a little extra push and big 1791 01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:42,560 congrats to Denver for decriminalising 1792 01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:45,830 magic mushrooms I've done my part 1793 01:08:49,750 --> 01:08:48,080 your move heart health hiders corporate 1794 01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:49,760 wife estate soaked mono crop 1795 01:09:01,329 --> 01:08:52,310 perpetuators and deceivers of our 1796 01:09:10,410 --> 01:09:01,339 sickness system your [\h__\h] if it's all 1797 01:09:18,130 --> 01:09:10,420 right I'll keep my behind 1798 01:09:18,140 --> 01:09:32,600 [Music] 1799 01:09:32,610 --> 01:09:35,649 take it 1800 01:09:40,990 --> 01:09:38,160 monka monka 1801 01:09:44,999 --> 01:09:41,000 [Music] 1802 01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:52,089 banca yeah the last thing a li classes 1803 01:09:58,660 --> 01:09:55,040 while the screaming on the masses who do 1804 01:10:02,169 --> 01:09:58,670 you think they are fancy senior man a 1805 01:10:04,750 --> 01:10:02,179 steak gotta tell you the basics they 1806 01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:04,760 print your money you got the Fed in your 1807 01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:08,510 head currency now the smiley enter cage 1808 01:10:14,710 --> 01:10:34,850 [Music] 1809 01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:38,459 plans are simple the best protection of 1810 01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:40,960 all is the special shelter built 1811 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:42,760 according to specifications of your 1812 01:10:47,730 --> 01:10:45,610 local civil defense organization 1813 01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:47,740 the basement of any house or building 1814 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:50,710 will become a good improviser if you 1815 01:11:13,370 --> 01:10:56,650 block the windows if you don't have can 1816 01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:13,380 you do you find me in the 1817 01:11:33,730 --> 01:11:21,570 Punda